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[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 161 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] tiita@lemmy.world 82 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Not really.. This time America voted for the felon to become a dictator

And the felon will do whatever he can to make it happen.

Last time it was still a misguided presidency.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hear ya, but I mean he 'joked' about it before this election too.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 week ago (5 children)
[–] HocEnimVeni@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Don't forget when he praised Xi Jinping for removing term limits and suggested he might do the same https://www.reuters.com/article/world/trump-praises-chinese-president-extending-tenure-for-life-idUSKCN1GG03P/

[–] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

He's also just explicitly said that he wants to be a dictator, but that apparently isn't a turn-off for much of his base, and in fact many of them see it as a positive: https://apnews.com/article/trump-hannity-dictator-authoritarian-presidential-election-f27e7e9d7c13fabbe3ae7dd7f1235c72

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I saw a comment from a conservative recently who was hoping that Trump would create term limits for congress. Like, how delusional can you be?

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[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 27 points 1 week ago (4 children)

in the 10 minutes of the Rogan interview I could stomach he talked about how surreal it all was, how it was a joke, he didn't want to be a politician, and he didn't expect to win.

He was expecting it this time and he knows what he can get away with.

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[–] Bonifratz@lemm.ee 113 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Luckily, the process of repealing or changing an amendment likely won’t change anytime soon, even with a Republican trifecta at the federal level, as it requires overwhelming public support. As outlined in Article 5 of the Constitution, any such change requires at least two-thirds of the Senate and the House to agree on the modification, with that change then requiring ratification by a minimum of three-quarters of states in the nation.

I wouldn't be so confident. If the majority decides to ignore it, then a constitution suddenly holds very little weight. Remember how the Roman Empire was once a Republic, until someone decided it wasn't anymore? Remember how 1930s Germany was a democracy, until someone decided that had to end?

Trump might argue some weird logic regarding the 22nd and 12th amendment. Or he might just declare a state of national emergency because of a new migrant caravan or some such shit, and postpone elections indefinitely. If he tries anything of the sort, it will all come down to whose side the military is on.

[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What happens if they declare all democrats are enemies of the state and remove them from office and put their people in?

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Project Gilead.

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[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 82 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] 3PO40K@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You would think they would figure it out right? It's not a joke.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

You'd think, but then 75 or so million people either didn't, or wanted this.

[–] jerakor@startrek.website 56 points 1 week ago (9 children)

He is 78, in awful health, and has no interest in a legacy or supporting a successor. He keeps everyone around him at odds and maintains enough infighting that no clear heir apparent could really show up.

So like, he really only will hold power long enough to make everything terrible. So we got that goin for us.

[–] minnow@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You know how long Caesar was dictator for life before he was assassinated? Less than a year.

But the damage was done, and Rome had a civil war over whether it would go back to being a Republic like it had been or if it would have an autocratic ruler. Obviously, the latter won out.

A lesson from history.

[–] jerakor@startrek.website 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Let's not lump Trump in with Julius Caesar. Julius Caesar was a war hero and a capable leader who's final crimes were giving out citizenship and housing.

Trump's final crimes will be giving all our state secrets to every other government in the world and obliterating our infrastructure.

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[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We have so many lessons from history to pull from right now that you would need multiple professors to explain them all and yet they were all ignored.

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[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Remember, the Constitution is just a really old piece of paper if the people entrusted to enforce it choose to ignore it.

There is a non-zero chance that Trump could move to suspend the Constitution entirely, backed by a complicit Cabinet, Congress, Supreme Court and several state governments. And at that point, we would literally have to hope and pray that the rank-and-file military is on the side of the people, which is far, far from guaranteed. Because if they're not, you can claim your Constitutional rights all you want, but you'll be doing it with the other prisoners inside of whatever re-education camp you're assigned to.

Heck, there's a non-zero chance that the American voter just gives off a collective "meh" and just apathetically lets Trump seize total power. We just saw a few million people do just that.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wow, already in the first week. Expect to hear this joke periodically over the course of his term, each time getting slightly more seriously stated. By the third year, everyone will have heard it so much it'll be accepted as a perfectly reasonable idea. And the media will help that along in how they report on it. This is the tried and true playbook and it will work, not only for this plan but for their other plans.

Take for example the planned mass deportations. They'll start out with finding some people who have committed crimes (or they claim have), deport them and no one will object to that, it's already how it's done. As they move on to those whose crimes are not very consequential, like traffic tickets or whatever, if libs say anything against it, they'll pounce on it and amplify stories how the libs are overreacting and want criminals to be left free and have open borders. Harping on any criticism in cases that are technically justified is key to getting the public used to pooh-poohing any dissent as they start escalating and going after the law-abiding (other than being here illegally ofc) immigrants, families with mixed status members, DACA/Dreamers, parents of children born here and thus citizens and deporting the children with them, etc.

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[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 42 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Let me get this right. So, you know exactly who this man is and what he stands for. Yet, you elect him anyway. You know he's been "joking" about this before. Yet, you elect him anyway. He's a convicted felon. Yet, you elect him anyway.

I've lost every smidgen of respect I had for Americans. You went into this with eyes wide open. You deserve what's coming.

[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (13 children)

I voted for Kamala, and got a handful of others to as well, don't include me with the rest of them. I don't deserve this.

Same. I voted on the first day of early voting, and convinced my nephew and his two best friends to cast their first (and likely last) votes. My niece is 15; I'm sure she'll be glad to hear she "deserves" what's coming.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Yeah, not only did I vote against this, my demographic hit 94% for Harris.

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[–] leadore@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (5 children)

You deserve what’s coming.

You're talking to the people who tried to stop him, so fuck off.

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[–] madjo@feddit.nl 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s not a joke! For heaven’s sake, media, it’s not a joke!

[–] Event_Horizon@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Exactly. And this isn't even the first time he's said it!

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 37 points 1 week ago

George W. Bush made a joke about being a dictator, but never tried to actually be one. Trump has been trying to be a dictator from the moment he was born...

[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ben Shapiro is a hypocritical piece of shit. Sorry that might not be relevant.

[–] TurnpikeRangers@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Nah, that's always relevant

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

Cheeto ain't joking about power.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Good thing he's old AF and overweight. Maybe that will impact him even before this term is done...

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Yeah, President Vance? Every option has us screwed no matter how long Trump lasts

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[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I don't see him lasting his full term. Dude's old, is incredibly unhealthy, and has enough power-mad people around him that the first sign of weakness will probably be enough for medical intervention and Vance becoming president. Becoming president AGAIN at his age is possibly the dumbest thing he can do for his health.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sadly his Klan loving father lived to 93, and being POTUS is like having a dedicated one person ER following you around.

Also, the office only ages you if you're committed to performing the job, Trump uses the office to troll the people he can troll and, more urgently, personally profit for anyone that offers him or his businesses a bribe in exchange for a Presidential act. He doesn't work even in business, he issues broad, pie in the sky dictates and encourages his own employees infighting about the details. He's bragged about this.

Trump was the first President in my lifetime to accelerate the aging of those he governed rather than himself. Like so many other things people seem to forget, he spent a lot of his first term golfing.

Not that I'm complaining on that point, golf motherfucker! Do less!

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[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

He won't stay in power. His appointment of incompetent sycophants will dismantle 250 years of American prosperity (maliciously or negligently, it doesn't matter) and it will be sold for parts to billionaires and foreign states.

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

It wasn't a joke.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

It's not a joke, you fucking idiot.

[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Brave of him to assume he'll still be alive by year four

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