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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 17 minutes ago

Long as his "forever" ends at or before 2027

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

I don't see him lasting his full term. Dude's old, is incredibly unhealthy, and has enough power-mad people around him that the first sign of weakness will probably be enough for medical intervention and Vance becoming president. Becoming president AGAIN at his age is possibly the dumbest thing he can do for his health.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 23 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Let me get this right. So, you know exactly who this man is and what he stands for. Yet, you elect him anyway. You know he's been "joking" about this before. Yet, you elect him anyway. He's a convicted felon. Yet, you elect him anyway.

I've lost every smidgen of respect I had for Americans. You went into this with eyes wide open. You deserve what's coming.

[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 14 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I voted for Kamala, and got a handful of others to as well, don't include me with the rest of them. I don't deserve this.

Same. I voted on the first day of early voting, and convinced my nephew and his two best friends to cast their first (and likely last) votes. My niece is 15; I'm sure she'll be glad to hear she "deserves" what's coming.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 33 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Wow, already in the first week. Expect to hear this joke periodically over the course of his term, each time getting slightly more seriously stated. By the third year, everyone will have heard it so much it'll be accepted as a perfectly reasonable idea. And the media will help that along in how they report on it. This is the tried and true playbook and it will work, not only for this plan but for their other plans.

Take for example the planned mass deportations. They'll start out with finding some people who have committed crimes (or they claim have), deport them and no one will object to that, it's already how it's done. As they move on to those whose crimes are not very consequential, like traffic tickets or whatever, if libs say anything against it, they'll pounce on it and amplify stories how the libs are overreacting and want criminals to be left free and have open borders. Harping on any criticism in cases that are technically justified is key to getting the public used to pooh-poohing any dissent as they start escalating and going after the law-abiding (other than being here illegally ofc) immigrants, families with mixed status members, DACA/Dreamers, parents of children born here and thus citizens and deporting the children with them, etc.

[–] HerrBeter@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Ha such fun joke

Edit: also just boys being boys

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 16 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

He won't stay in power. His appointment of incompetent sycophants will dismantle 250 years of American prosperity (maliciously or negligently, it doesn't matter) and it will be sold for parts to billionaires and foreign states.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 hours ago

will dismantle 250 years of American prosperity

cough 1961 to 2008

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah; he’ll stay in power long enough for that.

But he’s 78 years old. When he’s supposed to step down in 2029, he’ll be almost 83.

The average life expectancy of men in the US is currently 73.

Based on historical data for people Trump’s age and health in the US, he’s likely to die of natural causes before he’s 86.

So the longest he could likely hang on for is one more term than he’s supposed to.

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I bet he wants nepotism to for succession, but that's not what his benifactors want, hence JD Vance

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 40 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Remember, the Constitution is just a really old piece of paper if the people entrusted to enforce it choose to ignore it.

There is a non-zero chance that Trump could move to suspend the Constitution entirely, backed by a complicit Cabinet, Congress, Supreme Court and several state governments. And at that point, we would literally have to hope and pray that the rank-and-file military is on the side of the people, which is far, far from guaranteed. Because if they're not, you can claim your Constitutional rights all you want, but you'll be doing it with the other prisoners inside of whatever re-education camp you're assigned to.

Heck, there's a non-zero chance that the American voter just gives off a collective "meh" and just apathetically lets Trump seize total power. We just saw a few million people do just that.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, a "joke".

[–] Bonifratz@lemm.ee 96 points 16 hours ago (8 children)

Luckily, the process of repealing or changing an amendment likely won’t change anytime soon, even with a Republican trifecta at the federal level, as it requires overwhelming public support. As outlined in Article 5 of the Constitution, any such change requires at least two-thirds of the Senate and the House to agree on the modification, with that change then requiring ratification by a minimum of three-quarters of states in the nation.

I wouldn't be so confident. If the majority decides to ignore it, then a constitution suddenly holds very little weight. Remember how the Roman Empire was once a Republic, until someone decided it wasn't anymore? Remember how 1930s Germany was a democracy, until someone decided that had to end?

Trump might argue some weird logic regarding the 22nd and 12th amendment. Or he might just declare a state of national emergency because of a new migrant caravan or some such shit, and postpone elections indefinitely. If he tries anything of the sort, it will all come down to whose side the military is on.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago)

Burn the senate building, arrest some democrat kid and say there is a deep state satanic conspiracy with the democrats to destroy the God Appointed Trump Presidency, throw fake news all over the place and call for another election and/or emergency bill that gives him unlimited power.

What is that thing about story not repeating itself but rhyming?

[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 38 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

What happens if they declare all democrats are enemies of the state and remove them from office and put their people in?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 hours ago

You mean the thing that they literally told us they were going to do?

They didn't actually mean that...

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 33 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago

Project Gilead.

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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

He’ll do what Putin did. Have Vance run as President, and run as his Vice-President. He’ll maintain control like Dick Cheney with Bush.

[–] firebyte@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

Trump's malignant narcissism won't let him be subordinate to someone else. So that idea is out.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

That’s explicitly not allowed by the constitution. 12th amendment

[–] pornpornporn@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 hours ago

It's already established that the 14th amendment doesn't apply to him, so why would the 12th?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 hours ago

They. Do. Not. Care.

You still don't get this?

[–] rimmedalpha@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 10 hours ago

Yes, but the 28th Amendment written on this McDonald's napkin says he can totally do this.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 135 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] tiita@lemmy.world 69 points 18 hours ago (11 children)

Not really.. This time America voted for the felon to become a dictator

And the felon will do whatever he can to make it happen.

Last time it was still a misguided presidency.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 69 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I hear ya, but I mean he 'joked' about it before this election too.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 54 points 18 hours ago (5 children)
[–] HocEnimVeni@lemmy.world 44 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Don't forget when he praised Xi Jinping for removing term limits and suggested he might do the same https://www.reuters.com/article/world/trump-praises-chinese-president-extending-tenure-for-life-idUSKCN1GG03P/

[–] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 37 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

He's also just explicitly said that he wants to be a dictator, but that apparently isn't a turn-off for much of his base, and in fact many of them see it as a positive: https://apnews.com/article/trump-hannity-dictator-authoritarian-presidential-election-f27e7e9d7c13fabbe3ae7dd7f1235c72

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[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 72 points 18 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] jerakor@startrek.website 51 points 18 hours ago (8 children)

He is 78, in awful health, and has no interest in a legacy or supporting a successor. He keeps everyone around him at odds and maintains enough infighting that no clear heir apparent could really show up.

So like, he really only will hold power long enough to make everything terrible. So we got that goin for us.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 hours ago

It will definitely be interesting to see at which stage each "well, maybe it won't be that bad" people realize that, yes. It will.

[–] minnow@lemmy.world 48 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

You know how long Caesar was dictator for life before he was assassinated? Less than a year.

But the damage was done, and Rome had a civil war over whether it would go back to being a Republic like it had been or if it would have an autocratic ruler. Obviously, the latter won out.

A lesson from history.

[–] jerakor@startrek.website 27 points 17 hours ago

Let's not lump Trump in with Julius Caesar. Julius Caesar was a war hero and a capable leader who's final crimes were giving out citizenship and housing.

Trump's final crimes will be giving all our state secrets to every other government in the world and obliterating our infrastructure.

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[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 23 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Ben Shapiro is a hypocritical piece of shit. Sorry that might not be relevant.

[–] TurnpikeRangers@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago

Nah, that's always relevant

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[–] Ravenzfire@lemmy.ml 9 points 14 hours ago

Jk, jk...unless...

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