If anyone is in need of a more secure option in these dystopian times: drip keeps all your data on your phone. You can export the data, so you can keep the tracked data when changing phones. I only use it for tracking my cycle and sometimes symptoms though, so I can't say much about using it for birth control.
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They shouldn't be collecting it in the first place, store the logs locally (and encrypted tbh) on the user's device.
Why in the fuck would the government need this information?
When they start prosecuting women for miscarriages and suspected abortions under Trump's national abortion ban.
That's not a need, that's a want. The government doesn't get to do whatever they want.
In dumbfuckistan they do.
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dystopian hellscape where government has an algorithm to check whether your period has come in a given month, and if you've missed more than a few weeks, you'll be listed as pregnant. And then if you're not pregnant anymore for any reason other than giving birth, then you'll be prosecuted for having an abortion.
To prosecute criminals. Like women not following a shit take like "Your body, my choice". Or terrorists. With wombs? Idk.
This shit is just fucked up.
China had a database that stored fertility information including information like in the article leak a few years back too. Worse cause it leaked/got hacked. Creepy AF
Why does a period tracking app even need to store the data anywhere other than locally?
their given reasons are "to keep backups" and "academic and clinical research with de-identified datasets"
they seem to actually do a fairly good job with anonymizing the research datasets, unlike most "anonymized research data", though for the raw data stored on their servers, they do not seem to use encryption properly and their security model is "the cloud hoster wouldn't spy on the data right?" (hint: their data is stored on american servers, so the american authorities can just subpoena Amazon Web Services directly, bypassing all their "privacy guarantees". (the replacement for the EU-US Privacy Shield seems to be on very uncertain legal grounds, and that was before the election))
de-identified
Doubt.
De-identified data is an oxymoron. Basically any dataset that's in any way interesting is identifiable.
no it's not. If you reduce the information in the datapoints until none of them are unique, then it is very obviously impossible to uniquely identify someone from them. And when you have millions of users the data can definitely still be kept interesting
(though there's pretty big pitfalls here, as their report seems to leave open the possibility of not doing it correctly)
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tf is usa on, why they need perios statistics
~~That's nice, but why does that data need to be on their servers in the first place?~~
Ok, so apparently they don't store the data by default. Guessing they could if the user wants it backed up or synced across devices.
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But it will still disclose that data to advertising companies which WILL give it to the authorities for a nominal fee
Also, why does the app keep that data in a centralized location where it can be scooped up like that?
And more importantly, people have known that everything is spyware since the Snowden leaks, why the hell would you ever give that kind of data to an app on your phone? Even if the app was totally E2EE and private, other things on your phone do all kinds of spying
I know it's not feasible, but if a lot of males would just use the apps that are know to report to US authorities and input data, that most likely will raise a alarms, they would have to deal with heaps of false-positives and it would obscure the real data.
I'm in. Anyone know of any apps that DO report data?
Same, ready to poison data against fascists anytime.
I just experienced my first period as a 38 year old male. I know almost nothing about them, so this is gonna be a wild ride for anyone who reads my stats.
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Why US gov need to know about people's period?, that's weird and creepy
To get the needle, you need the whole haystack. Collect everything decrypt later
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This is awesome, thank you for your service! Goddamn, the premises around that are just... sad.
It makes zero sense in keeping the data unencrypted in ang cloud. People usually don't share their cycles details on the public internet.
I'm glad this article is about Clue. I hope I can continue to trust them.
I've been using Clue for years and it's nicely trans-friendly and not-pink. When I was first looking for a period app, many options were focused on fertility--either seeking or avoiding pregnancy--which rubbed me the wrong way.
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