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[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 157 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Europeans be like: "I'm just gonna take a half tablet, don't want to get dependent on this stuff"

Meanwhile, Americans:

[–] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Ngl I ibuprofen does kinda taste good

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Don't be fooled, they put a sugar coating around the OTC stuff. Instant release Adderall on the other hand... that shit tastes pretty good

[–] lengau@midwest.social 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I switched pharmacies and holy shit do the different Adderall generics taste different. I'm stuck now with the Meijer pharmacy because I can't go back to the bitter vomit-inducing crap I was getting at Rite Aid.

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago

Wish I could be of more help. I've had two different types of generic instant release and they both tasted lightly sweet and went down with 0 issues . Maybe I got lucky haha. Idk if name brand or generic makes much of a difference price-wise for you but you could always try parachuting your pills (without crushing them obv) to put a barrier between your tongue and the pill

[–] remer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

The coating on advil is sweetened. The actual medicine tastes horrible.

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 146 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Europeans: I'm taking a pill, if it keeps hurting I'm going to the doctor.

Americans: I'm keeping taking this until I pay the house. It is still hurting, I can refinance the house to see a doctor.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Really not much exaggeration here

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[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 78 points 1 week ago (6 children)

"Lol Americans are so funny, they can't go to a doctor without going homeless, look at these coping mechanisms they use, hilarious"

[–] lud@lemm.ee 38 points 1 week ago

Yeah, it's pretty funny considering how absurd it is.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It is funny since they keep voting in ways that make their healthcare worse instead of better so why should we feel pity?

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Americans just tell you it's a slight headache. In reality their back is so screwed up it's going to require surgery but they can't afford that and complaining about actual pain is strictly forbidden in American men.

So we take ~~200~~ ~~400~~ ~~800~~ 1600 Motrin, with some bourbon, and ignore it as best as we can.

[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Eric_Pollock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Is this a serious thing? It seems so normal here in the states.

[–] kayaven@lemmy.world 101 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Yes, it's a thing. The idea behind it is that you don't want to become dependent on the pills to the point that they have less effect or that you feel worse without them. Sincerely, a Dutch non-techno non-DJ.

[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also it can cause or amplify a lot of stomach issues

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Regular use also fucks up your organs. Paracetamol (Tylenol) kills your liver, and ibuprofen kills your kidneys.

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[–] hannesh93@feddit.org 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Also often the pain is telling you that something is wrong - you wouldn't treat a broken ankle with strong painkillers and continue walking as if nothing was wrong just because it doesn't hurt anymore - would you?

Painkillers should make the pain bearable so you can still listen to your body and not take away the pain completely

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

you wouldn’t treat a broken ankle with strong painkillers and continue walking as if nothing was wrong just because it doesn’t hurt anymore - would you?

Of course not! We limp around trying to keep it from hurting, praying to any deity that will listen and some that won't that it heals before you have to pay for a visit to urgent care.

The pills are just to help us go to work while we mentally figure out how many meals we will be skipping to pay for it.

Now ask me if I'm joking.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Depends, how much is getting it seen going to cost me? And can I do my job with crutches I bought at the pharmacy? Cause if I miss a day I'll get fired and the hospital will put me in jail if I don't pay my bills.

America is a shit hole country.

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[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I have never heard of this in the context of ibuprofen. I know it’s bad on the stomach which means you shouldn’t take it for long periods of time (unless prescribed by a doctor). However, when the source of the pain disappears it’s pretty easy to kick the habit. Very different from opioids that are addictive beyond their painkilling ability.

Also between European countries the price of otc painkillers differs tremendously, and my impression is that European pharmacies generally only sell small packages in an effort to maximise profits.

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To be fair we also have it much easier with our healthcare that doesn't know the concept of sick-days. When you're sick you just don't go to work and your healthcare pays half your salary while your employer continues paying the other half.

So we can actually afford to stay home in bed and let our bodies do the work while we rest.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

Screw your sick days! I'm gonna work myself into oblivion to be able to buy my big-ass coal-roller truck on credit and fill up my garage to the brim with crap that I'll let someone else move when I die from a cheese and Ibuprofen overdose. 'Murica!!!!!

[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm Dutch and I only take paracetamol when I cannot sleep or function due to pain/illness. I've never taken something stronger like Ibuprofen in my life. When I'm ill I usually just lie in bed and wait for it to blow over

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Is acetaminophen really considered to be less strong than ibuprofen? I’d always considered them to be equal with ibuprofen being safer.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yep here in Dutchland many people think paracetamol is a safer version of aspirine. They don’t know paracetamol can get dangerous very quickly. Dutch hospitals often get patients into the ER with a possible paracetamol overdose.

Here is a toxicologist working in a Dutch hospital saying that https://youtu.be/P_Zt-xw7bME (has English subs)

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In the Netherlands, yes. Ibuprofen is considered "stronger" or at least more serious. Most of that is because the general consensus seems to be to take 2 paracetamol (1000mg) and if it doesn't help, add 400mg of ibuprofen on top.

So, everyone sees it as "stronger" instead of complementary

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[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

You're the second person I've seen saying that ibuprofen is stronger than paracetamol. Where does that come from?

It is slightly stronger, but the dose is smaller. A single dose of router either is roughy the same pain reduction, and similar damage for exceeding their recommended usage

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[–] Berttheduck@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, in the UK they reduced the amount you can buy at once too, so drugs like paracetamol and ibuprofen only come in 16 tablet packs and you can only buy 2 packs at a shop., It's helped lower suicides quite well.

People here have a real aversion to taking tablets a lot of the time. I have to convince people to take regular paracetamol (which is non addictive and doesn't have side effects so long as you don't take more than the recommended amount) after they have had surgery semi-regularly.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Suicide by by paracetamol is such a fucking horrible way to go, mostly since it doesn't kill you, it just completely destroys your liver.

Just enough time to regret it, before you die slowly and in great pain

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[–] hannesh93@feddit.org 28 points 1 week ago (7 children)

My girlfriend always makes fun that in Germany chamomile tea is the go to painkiller and only if that doesn't help the pills come out. It was one of her strongest culture-shocks she didn't anticipate before coming to Europe

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 1 week ago

The pain of drinking chamomile tea does have a masking effect.

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[–] exu@feditown.com 28 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It's always amusing how you can read Dutch with some difficulty by combining German and English.

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[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Don't know about Ibuprofen, but Paracetamol overdose is horrible, agonizing death.

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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Fun fact for Europeans: we call paracetamol acetaminophen

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I had a tooth surgically removed a few years back, took 90 min, and I got strong paracetamol and even a small pack of morphine.

I never used the morphine, I keep it sealed at home if I need it.

[–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh absolutely, that doesn't mean it won't work though, probably less effective though...

[–] variants@possumpat.io 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We kept my wife's after she had our baby until one of my cousins casually asked if we still had it. We tossed it so quick and got worried someone might be addicted and would find it in our bathroom mirror thing.

The smart thing might have been to stash it somewhere else to have it in case we end up in an natural disaster or something you always see the people in the movies going through houses finding useful meds. But we just got worried

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[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

The pills will ease the Payne.

[–] TheBluePillock@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'm kinda in this meme. I went through one of those big bottles roughly every 1-2 months for 20 years. Sometimes 12 pills in one day, with 4-8 acetaminophen on top (they do giant double packs of those too). Chronic migraines, but every doctor I asked for help just told me to lose weight so it went untreated and got worse and worse. Our health care suuuucks.

I did lose the weight. It didn't magically fix my migraines, or affect them at all. Insurance dicked me around for another year and a half while my neurologist tried to help every way she could, but we finally got it down to only one migraine a week. I'm truly glad for that, but I still think about the years of unnecessary suffering, and how much better it might be now if I'd been treated sooner.

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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 week ago

If those bottles are sold as a pair and each has 500 pills, 1000 pills is more than a hospital grade package in my country.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Is it common for ibuprofen to not really help? With physical pain it does nothing for me. It kind of helps with head aches sometimes. I use it maybe a couple times a year, so it's not tolerance.

[–] jagungal@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Ibuprofen is a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory (NSAID). It will reduce inflammation and the associated pain. If your pain is not caused by inflammation then you should talk to a pharmacist about what the best analgesic is for you.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There are several families of painmeds some more harmless than others. Anecdotally I know people that only seem to get relief from ibuprofen, and others that swear only paracetamol (Tylenol) helps, while again others sweat to asperin. Like the other person said.. talk to a pharmacist about options, and see if others work for you.

Some like paracetamol can me taken over the course of a day for multiple days for example post operation.. and they build a level that causes them to work even stronger. But paracetamol can cause lover damage if taken too much.

Like with all drugs, read the darn pamphlet. Opiates are not your friend and should only be taken very sparingly under proper supervision, if at all.. sure they dull pain but are highly addictive.

Source, not a medical professional, so take what I wrote with a grain of salt and consult a professional.

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[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I guess I'm Americaning wrong. As far as painkillers go, 've only taken one ibuprofen in the last year. I even had a severe gut pain event where they prescribed me some oxy but I never took anything.

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