God, I feel for Zelensky... Imagine fighting for your existence against Russia and having to talk to these morons for help.
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Remember when we had a whole impeachment hearing against Trump for withholding aid to Ukraine so he could get a political hit piece on Biden? I'm wondering how long it will take before a quid pro quo scenario pops up again. Either in Ukraine or elsewhere. So ya, we're all feeling for Zelensky in the next few years.
There will be no agreements.
trump is going to change US policy to excluding all intelligence and military support and will "leak" all known military intel to putin.
As though nobody considered what he was actually doing with all those confidential documents.
Don't worry. He was just confused last time and totally will never steal and leak sensitive information ever again because that would be against the law. Just like he won't extend his presidency or rig an election because that would violate the constitution.
We've been seeing this shit for months. At first I thought it was just contrarian dumbasses. But I have increasingly realized that this is people convincing themselves that it was fine to vote for trump. Oh, he wasn't REALLY going to do anything to violate teh constitution when he led an armed insurrection against the capital and was just buying time for rudy g to solve things. Oh, he isn't going to serve the country to putin because all those heroic men and women in uniform will stop him this time for real.
It is fucking idiocy.
As a 4th generation veteran, it makes so angry to think how many people died in the name of democracy and suddenly half the population is choosing for someone intending to end it to run the show.
We’re in for some dark times ahead.
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Impeaching him might be on the docket, if the Republicans really want Vance in the puppet seat. I think they'd rather manipulate him than whatever fucking impending shit-splosion Trump will become about 3 minutes in.
I think Vance might at least be convinced to do logical things. We know that isn't happening with Donny.
I think Vance might at least be convinced to do logical things.
He's more likely to competently implement project 2025. Or at least more competently than Trump.
And that's not a good thing for anyone.
I go back and forth on which is more dangerous.
trump is pathologically incapable of not backstabbing everyone around him and people telling him what to do is going to accelerate that. So we might get lucky and go back to the largely ineffectual screaming of the last round rather than focused efforts.
But vance actually has ambitions and might want to be his own person. And vance is REAL stupid.
I think we are horribly fucked either way but I think I am still leaning toward trump surviving until late 2028.
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Zelensky probably spent the whole call wondering if it would be faster to just hand deliver everything they talked about directly to Putin.
I’m sure they will help, “Just give Russia what they want, war over, problem solved”
My guess is Trump essentially extorted him in the namel of "making a deal" in exchange for American aid.
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Remember when they used to try to keep corruption somewhat hidden and deniable? Now the richest man in the world is just going to be walking around the White House, tugging the government’s leash on full display.
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Fucker will disable Starlink in Ukraine and allow it in Russia
He's going to be on the cabinet while getting billions in government contracts. The richest man in the world just got a job where he gets to to shovel more government money to himself. And that's what Trump calls 'draining the swamp' and 'sticking it to the elites'.
And somehow, instead of democrats calling that out, they decided to find their own elites to trot out.
Worst of it, government money is your tax dollar... You will pay more and more taxes to funnel the money to Trump's friends. Trump is the swamp thing!
They'll finance it with debt, sale of assets and cutting of services. Which is probably even worse
Biggest case of conflict of interest and quid pro quo in government and its just being allowed to happen...
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Hilarious that his administration is already leaking worse than a Russian submarine.
Musk's whole "slash government spending" schtick is such a farce. Tesla wouldn't have domestic manufacturing facilities without a DOE loan. SpaceX survives off of government contracts.
Slash government funding for everything except the socialism for the rich.
Slash Social Security, add EV subsidies, make them so that only Tesla qualifies in practice.
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What a dilema for Ukraine! I feel their abandonment will be a microcosm for our leaving to the wolves.
I think a lot of Americans don't understand that the USA hedgemony isn't a divine right, it was a deliberate construction with tacit agreement of convenience from the western world.
Much like an economy, belief makes it so.
Much like the UK's arrogance has driven them into geopolitical obscurity, so will the USA's.
In 15 years, Americans are going to wake up and realize that their voices are irrelevant in the world. I don't know how y'all are going to handle it.
The USA became dominant by letting the world fight itself to ruins, then entering into the war late and declaring victory. TWICE.
Being the only mostly undestroyed nation after a world war is immensely profitable.
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I deeply, desperately hope you’re right. In the best case, the military (including the nuclear arsenal) gets as hollowed out as russias before that realization comes.
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When you're a star they let you do it.
nice, a five year old participating in diplomacy regarding nation destroying wars. what could go wrong.
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Doesn't he have like ten companies to run... into the ground?
The companies might do better if he's there less to make decisions for them.
A scammer gets reeled into a phone call between a president and a mobster wannabe.
Great timeline
Said it before, I'll say it again....we are, absolutely, without question.....in the Biff timeline.
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"Look honey, the clown show already started."
Do y'all think Elon's looking to run for office one day? Or does he just find it exciting to be included?
Musk doesn't need to run for office. He's the richest man in the world. With Trump as president, Musk can just call him, offer a few million and get whatever he wants.
Musk has enough money to change whatever rules he wants and tie up all the government lawyers for years fighting over all the rules he might want to break.
Billionaires shouldn’t exist.
He's not eligible, born in south africa
lol, doesn't matter.
Funny how this reflects exactly my train of thought.
Oh god, what if that asshat runs for president next?
Oh, wait, isn't he from Africa or something?
pew
Wait, doesn't his buddy run the country, his party and the supreme court?
*panic intensifies*
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He can't be president, and I don't see him interested in any other position.
Until trump, supermajority in Congress, and a hand picked supreme court say so
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