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[–] moon@lemmy.cafe 12 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Except those people tied themselves to the track and started the train themselves... Completely voluntarily.

[–] Acters@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Whilst screaming make America great again as the trolley (s) keep going

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 27 points 16 hours ago (6 children)

If you are from the US and you criticized people living under authoritarian regimes for not rioting hard enough, this is your time.

You still have it easy. You won't be taken into prison for standing with a piece of blank paper. You won't be beaten with batons and taken into custody for reciting Constitution. Yet. Go ahead before it gets there, and may you never see a true authoritarian horror.

Otherwise, all your words are not worth a dime.

[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

What would rioting do though besides serve as an excuse to ram in fascism

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

If it's not gonna happen, more fascist measures will be introduced - without people's hesitation outside Internet comments.

A solid organized riot does change the course even for most authoritarian governments, even if they happen to suppress it eventually. Politicians should feel that their position is not as solid as they would like.

But the further people prefer to not intervene, the more entrenched authoritarians become and more draconian measures are implemented. As such, the government is strongly interested in making people think rioting doesn't help. This is part of many authoritarians' playbooks.

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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

55% of your countrymen chose fascism. If you don't want fascism I think it's time to leave.

[–] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Technically it's not a full 55% of my countrymen, just 55% of the ones who bothered to vote. I'll admit that's not really a meaningful distinction though. Unfortunately, there's also more of us who want to leave than the rest of the world can reasonably handle. I hope as many marginalized people can get out, because it's going to be bad, especially for them. But those, like me, who are unlikely to be directly targeted due simply to being lucky enough to be born straight, white, men should probably leave those limited seats for those who truly need to leave.

[–] blubfisch@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 9 hours ago

Let me just leave this here:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

— Martin Niemöller https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...

I do not mean to accuse you of staying silent, but please remember: no one is safe from fascism once it is there.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 hours ago

People that didn't vote, didn't bother either way, so my point still stands.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I mean you could also take the "don't buy from US based corporations for 1 year challenge" starting january 1st 2025. Stock up on any corporate goods you need now then buy nothing for a year.

The pandemic market rallied because of a bailout after consumer spending plummeted. Would be a shame if the same thing happened and suddenly there was no emergency for a bailout to sail under.

They won't have time and energy for persecuting people if the economy is broken.

Record/pirate a bunch of movies/shows then cancel streaming for a year. Buy any electronics now before the tariffs start. Buy surplus canned food etc. Then see how little you can spend the entire year of 2025. Planning on doing tourist stuff inside the US? Don't. If you work at a big corporation consider deleting an important email and see what happens.

Lets fuck around.

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 1 points 11 hours ago

The little engine that could

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