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[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 68 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Mutual aid will be more important than ever, join and build up your local groups if you're able, it will pay off in dividends in the coming years.

This election has only proven how electoralism cannot be relied upon, it's just us now. We need to build the world we want to live in, without corporate influence.

  • Search your local area + 'mutual aid'.
  • Help your local food not bombs.
  • Create a worker owned cooperative with your friends if possible, or join an existing one.
  • Help spread the meshtastic network to build up communication resilience in your community.
  • Plant trees in your community to help reduce the heat island effect for the coming heatwaves.
  • Create or join a community garden near you to bolster food availability and foster connections with those around you.
  • engage in guerrilla urbanism, make your community safer to walk or bike
  • encourage your coworkers to unionize under the IWW, contact them for help on how to unionize your workplace.
  • vote in your local elections to try and have a state or city government that is less hostile to the above actions, but continue to build decentralized power independently of them regardless. Do not make the mistake of handing off the responsibility to make things better to them, it's up to YOU, and your community, and hopefully other nearby communities doing the same, but that is all.

We have tremendous collective power if we just use it, and hopefully this outcome will result in us coming together and building that world in the shell of the old. Collective solidarity is our only solution left.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Already have some solar powered meshtastic nodes up in my area. Gonna get some folks on it in the coming weeks and months.

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[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 283 points 15 hours ago (13 children)

"Now that the election is over I think we can finally say that yeah actually Project 2025 is the agenda," Walsh wrote on X (formerly Twitter).

In other words "Damn right we lied to everybody! Thanks, suckers!"

I guess there's no need to even bother wearing the masks any more. Racism, misogyny and bigotry won the day. Handily. Republicans turned out in droves to sign up for more of it, and Democrats have said they're willing to accept it rather than elect a black woman. At that point, why even bother hiding it. Everybody knows what it is, and last night they said in pretty decisive fashion that they either actively want it or are at least willing to accept it.

We did this to ourselves. Trump made some small gains, but Harris underperformed Biden by roughly 10% or so. That means millions of Democrats sat home instead of voting for Harris, which also cost the Democrats some House and Senate seats downballot due to the lower turnout. There was no election fraud. This was a free and fair election. Trump won the popular vote. There are no excuses this time. We. Voted. For. This.

8-10 million Democrats stayed home. I don't care if you're "protesting Gaza", or if you're a closeted bigot who would rather sit out than vote for a black woman. Or whatever. If you stayed home rather than vote for Harris, you voted for this. In the words of Rush, "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice". And you made that choice knowing it was a de-facto vote for Trump.

The GOP had a damn good night last night. And they couldn't even wait 24 hours before cramming it right down our throats. They couldn't even wait 24 hours to take the mask off. Give it a couple of days and I figure the national abortion ban will be the next thing they don't bother trying to lie about any more. Why bother trying to hide it? We already said we're cool with it.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 121 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

Don't forget that the Latino vote for Trump went from 25% to 45%.

The dumb bastards voted themselves into being deported and don't think Stephen Miller is going to have a soft spot for people here legally.

Hes gonna come for them all.

[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 33 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Give those idiots what they want.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

For real. ~45% of them deserve to be round up into camps or deported. That's what they voted for, after all.

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[–] telllos@lemmy.world 19 points 10 hours ago

It blows my mind. But it's the reality. In an ideal world every minority should be against Trump. But this isn't the world we live in. There is a huge amount of immigrants who are coming from ultra conservative society.

Some latino who are well established will happily kick the ladder so that other can't come in.

So it's not super surprising. Homophobia and racism isn't only a white people's thing.

[–] xpinchx@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

This is sort of beside the point you're making, but a lot of 1st/2nd generation Latinos still look down on immigrants. "We did it the hard way, so they should have to as well" similar to bootstrap mentality.

It's some real mental gymnastics, but I've had several latina girlfriends over the years and some of their families were poor or super well off, but they openly hated Mexicans and/or Puerto Ricans.

That number isn't really that surprising.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

They think they're exempt...lol

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[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 48 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

A guy at work today said he wasn't worried about prop 3 failing because he has a medical Marijuana card. Like, dude, you're a brown man on a list of Marijuana consumers and the modern day nazis just got elected and now wield the fbi and DEA with no guardrails. He's fucked and he refuses to see it.

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[–] ThatOneKrazyKaptain@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

I will note at the rate things are going Trump has like a 85% chance of beating his 2020 numbers and a small chance of beating Biden's 2020 numbers. It's not JUST Harris poor turnout.

(Also her turnout was only bad by 2020 standards, it's still higher than John Kerry or Gore or Hillary)

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago

Upvote for Rush

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[–] Repelle@lemmy.world 59 points 14 hours ago (11 children)

Now that it’s clear that Harris’s really well run campaign underperformed Hillary Clinton, can we finally end the myth that some failing of her campaign strategy or “likability” was the primary reason for her loss rather than sexism and Comey’s shenanigans? It really seems like a very large number of men just won’t vote for a woman in the US.

[–] Fern@lemmy.world 30 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

I mean, her campaign was pretty awful in a lot of ways. It started out strong but since the DNC it was misstep after misstep. I dunno about you, but I love hearing the president say they'll only be different than Biden, because they'll have more Republicans in their cabinet. I love hearing they're going to build the wall. I love hearing them talk all the time about the fact that Cheney endorsed them. I love hearing how profracking they are. And I love their silence on the genocide in Gaza. Certainly, sexism and racism plays a role, but let's not kid ourselves here.

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[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 51 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That's my big takeaway from this election. A well-qualified woman will lose to the most idiotic man possible because millions of men will just never vote for a woman. All of these people in Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Michigan all showed up for Joe Biden, and all vanished for Hillary and Kamala, despite both being better candidates.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I heard a woman I work with, whose boss is a woman say two days before an election "I can't vote for a woman. They are emotional and make petty choices." And I was blown away.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

As the pettiest of all modern or maybe all presidents ever gets elected. LOL

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[–] Wintex@lemm.ee 11 points 13 hours ago

Sorry, but she had a ton of hype and squandered it by saying she would be the same as Biden, would have the most lethal military, didn't separate on Gaza, focused on small businesses instead of all Americans, flipflopped on Medicare and fracking in both the worst ways, picked a progressive vp and caged him in bad neoliberal talking points instead of adopting his hard agenda, and tried to push for a republican written border bill instead of trying to reframe the issue in a any progressive way. Most Americans, Republicans included care about immigration and ALSO agree on a pathway to citizenship.

People gave her the benefit of the doubt and she told them to accept her as she wanted to be. You can't continue to shame a voter base indefinitely, politicians are supposed to campaign in a way that wins votes.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

But GeNoCiDe tHo

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 49 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

The weirdoes are excited about cutting off the porn, I guess.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

There is literally no way to do this. They're just too stupid to know that.

[–] Event_Horizon@lemmy.world 16 points 11 hours ago

There's no way to block 100% but if they went full "fire wall of America", they could block enough to the 80% of people who don't know how to use a vpn, it would look like they're doing something.

And then you get the added bonus of blocking all those nasty foreign websites talking about freedom, democracy, equal rights and more!

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Tell you what. I just got a couple boxes of canvas. If they do "ban porn," I'll dedicate every one of these brand new canvasses to making erotic paintings out of spite.

And I mean, I'm not even a porn consumer. I just fucking hate fascists.

^...^ ^though^ ^I^ ^also^ ^happen^ ^to^ ^enjoy^ ^creating^ ^suggestive^ ^imagery,^ ^as^ ^well^ ^as^ ^painting^ ^nude^ ^figures.^ ^¯\(ツ)/¯^

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[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I live in a state where we now have ID verification laws. It effectively blocks the big players with the quality content.

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[–] Bookmeat@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Y'all remember how prohibition panned out?

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 48 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It's all Harris's fault everyone so definitely do not blame the absolute human garbage who didn't vote even knowing the stakes

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

I 10000% blame the Jill Stein voters and non voters

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 30 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

But not the 73 million people that wanted this explicitly?

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 9 hours ago

Of course those too. Thought thats obvious

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 8 hours ago

Most of them at least (misguidedly) think they are doing the best thing for themselves/the country. Non-voters just couldn’t be bothered to take any responsibility at all.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Trump got more votes than every other party combined. I blame the Trump voters.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago

Be sure to add in the protest non voters. Because all 100,000,000 of them cost us the election in 2016 as well.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 9 hours ago

Thats obvious. But I blame the non voters and third party voters just as much. They are no an iota better than any MAGA voter.

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[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 39 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Huh? Honest Trumpy said he’d never heard of it

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago

He may not even have been lying. He's demented, and he didn't even read the daily white house briefings. There's no way in hell he'd pick up a 900+ page document. It's in his Christian Taliban handlers best interest to keep him in the dark. It's not like his voter base expect him to know what his policies are, because they don't even know. They're just voting based on a general vibe (aka feefees).

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 24 points 15 hours ago

that's what America wants apparently

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago

Nobody tell the rubes exactly what we’re going to do.

Ok, now tell the rubes.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago
[–] _____@lemm.ee 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't even bother reading anything about project 2025 because I thought surely it wouldn't come to this

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

start putting it up your ass steve

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