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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 25 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

Biden can still execute him as official presidential order

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[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 369 points 1 day ago (37 children)

I don't understand how this many people see everything that he's done and said, and still voted for him. I just do not understand. I don't want to live on the same planet as these people, nevermind in the same country.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 149 points 1 day ago (9 children)

From what I've seen it's people angry at the status quo and looking for a change in a desperate effort.

This is exactly what happened with Brexit.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Which was also influenced by russian campaigns

[–] ECB@feddit.org 93 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Status-quo politics is dead, many major western parties just haven't realized this yet. People want firmer political leadership that promises fundamental change and isn't afraid of breaking things along the way.

It's just fucking unfortunate that (in most countries) it's only the far right who are ahead of the curve at realizing this.

Center to left parties need to reinvent themselves and focus less on pleasing everyone or fighting losing battles. They also need to present a much clearer vision.

[–] skulkingaround@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Important to note here, the status quo is the status quo for a reason. Incremental evidence based change happens slowly. It cannot happen fast, and that's good. Slow is stable. The clear vision is "the system we have but marginally better tomorrow. And then the day after tomorrow, marginally better than that." It's foolish to vote for anyone who promises drastic change, left, right, up, or down. It's a trick. It's like changing 5 variables at once in a science experiment and expecting any sort of result better than random chance. We don't have a perfect system but rolling the dice on a wannabe fascist dictator is obviously not the way forward if you have two brain cells to run together, but an alarming amount of people seem to just not get it.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 7 points 1 day ago

That does not reflect history at all. Changes are often big, sudden, and violent. They may simmer for years before hand but they go off fast.

[–] ECB@feddit.org 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just look at history though and you'll see that most significant changes (both bad and good) happen abruptly and it's often a bit messy.

Unfortunately it's just the way that humans work

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[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

For the record, we progressives in the US have been trying to foment that kind of attention. Messaging seems to be artificially limited by the corporate media, which is why groups like XR have had to resort to super glue hands onto the outer frames of art.

Every time we gain some momentum, serious violence appears, perfectly on schedule, to quell our desire for change.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 21 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

This is what people do not seem to understand. Fascism has the backing of global capitalism. All of the multinationals and industries who have been top dogs for the entire industrial revolution — fossil fuel corporations, weapons manufacturing and the entire military industrial complex — all of the food supply chain, major media networks, social media networks, and big tech companies, who have built a more expansive surveillance apparatus than Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia — ALL of the leaders of the highly-centralized functional-monopolies of 21st C capitalism benefit from fascism. The 1/100 who says "not like this" is irrelevant.

They're all part of the big club (even if they are oblivious to it) and you aren't in it.

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[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 49 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Well, they're certainly going to get change, that's for sure. I hope they're happy sleeping in the bed they made.

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[–] lohky@lemmy.world 191 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Great job, dipshits. I hope this personally impacts each and every person that voted for him.

[–] schema@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

One side of me hopes they outlaw computer games and porn like it's laid out in project 2025. Unfortunately, it will hit everyone, but I fear that this is gonna happen anyway.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 91 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Oh it definitely will. Just his tariff plans are gonna turn everywhere into a 3rd world country, not just the republican backwaters.

[–] lohky@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

At this point, it's just desserts. The US had it coming for even letting him run in the first place. That being said, Republican backwaters are going to get fucked way harder than metro populations. Poor boomers are going to get wiped out without social security, Medicaid, or kids that love them anymore. The south can enjoy the next hurricane without FEMA aid. Have fun watching your loved ones get deported because you thought this only impacted "illegals", assholes. I have my popcorn ready.

Fuck em.

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's going to impact an enormous amount of people who didn't vote for him either though.

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[–] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 158 points 1 day ago (15 children)

As an Australian watching this all unfold I just can't believe you guys did it again.

[–] Irremarkable@fedia.io 90 points 1 day ago

We can't either

[–] gerbler@lemmy.world 71 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Seconded. The first time I was willing to write it off as frustrated voters being misled by a conman. This time is different. You all had four years under this rapist conman and enough people decided they'd go back for seconds. Despicable.

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[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 149 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Jesus fucking Christ not again

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 75 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Actually it's not gonna be "again". It's gonna be way, way worse.

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[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 92 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And they won the Senate and are on track to win the house. The supreme Court is already in Trump's pocket and even if he choked on a big Mac and keeled over tomorrow that still leaves Vance, who is just as insane as trump but knows how to make his shit palatable to anyone who hasn't been paying attention, which as tonight proves is more than half the country. We are 1000% well and truly fucked.

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[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 87 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Dear anyone that voted for this useless cunt,

You are fucking retarded. Thanks for ruining everything for the rest of us, dipshit.

With absolutely no love, any creature with an actual brain.

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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The dumb bastards just gave Gaza to Bibi and Ukraine to Putin. And that is just a small part.

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[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 70 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Welp, I'm going to skip work tomorrow and figure out how to get citizenship elsewhere. Fuck the US.

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[–] Retreaux@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I can't fucking believe we did it to ourselves again I'm completely in shock, this is fucking ridiculous.

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[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 53 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I guess it's confirmed. Americans really are dumber than a bag of rocks.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 53 points 1 day ago

I'm REALLY Angry at the Economy which is why I voted for a Billionaire who Promised his Billionaire friends Cabinet Positions and Tax Cuts and other Treats at the Expense of ME!

Also he promised to Deport my Wife and Daughter and lock up my Gay friend which is a HUGE Plus!

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is somehow less of a gut-punch than 2016 when everyone just assumed Americans would do the right thing and not elect Trump. It still sucks, but it’s less of a surprise. The writing was kind of on the wall for awhile though, just given the fact that the election was as close as it was. Even if Trump hadn’t won, that he was able to run the most garbage campaign in history and was still tying it up was pretty damning of America.

So now we watch as we just peacefully transfer power to the most vile, irresponsible person on Earth and watch the world burn.

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[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 49 points 1 day ago (22 children)

Where do mariginalized people go now?

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago (11 children)

To the camps, I think?

I'll be there once he gets to the gay part of the list.

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