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[–] Monologue@lemmy.zip 50 points 1 year ago (4 children)

doesn't help that printer ink is one of the most expensive liquids in the world and the whole business model of printer companies is based on selling overpriced ink, so much so that they sell printers at a loss and then try to block out third party cartridges

[–] Aussiemandeus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

That's why i just buy a new printer each time. Fuck them

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago

The sad thing is that’s basically what they encourage. So wasteful. Because they want you on a subscription model.

[–] idle@158436977.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

That's playing into the system. Buy a decent laser printer and be done.

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[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

buy a Brother, or better yet a laser printer.

[–] tok3n@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'll only buy Brother printers now. The print quality is pretty good and they just work on my Linux desktop.

[–] zurohki@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Even scanning over the network works on Linux on my Brother MFP. I really didn't expect that.

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[–] JIMMERZ@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I have a brother laser printer. Best printer I’ve had so far. 3 years on the same toner cart; at my pace I’d have replaced the ink 2 or 3 times already.

[–] girthero@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I was in the market this year so shopping around laser color ones I noticed the reviews for even the Brother said it would brick your printer if you use 3rd party toners. So just look before you buy. I ended up buying their more expensive one because of that, but still not entirely sure its 3rd party compatible. Ill research whether thats the case when my toner needs replaced.

[–] HeavenAndHell@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Obligatory "buy a Brother B&W laser printer" comment

They're actually more economical than modern HP printers because of their anti-consumer BS.

[–] Aasikki@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I got a used brother that had ever only printed one toner cartridges worth of prints, for 15€. It even has wifi, definitely one of the better buys I've made. I only need to print a handful of times a year so I anticipate it'll last me for years and years.

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

My color brother laser is great. I needed color but either option is the better one

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[–] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They have to print the invisible printer identification dots somehow.

[–] jackpot@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] CaptainAlchemy@lemmy.one 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Printers print very small dots on the sheet of paper you print so it canbe identified. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Identification_Code

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[–] fugepe@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My Brother monochromatic printing ~3000 pages per cartridge going brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[–] __mk__@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Who needs color anyway? A black laser printer is the way to go :)

[–] Senseless@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Low on cyan!!1!

[–] Aasikki@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah. The vast majority of people have no real reason to own a color printer. Black and white laser does the job and only if you need to print something like photos at home, should you even consider an inkjet.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Even then it depends how many you want to print.

Often will work out cheaper to have somebody else print them and post them to you.

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[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I have a b&w laster printer, an old Kyocera relic from the mid-2000s. Got it from a previous job that was remodeling their offices. I refuse to let go of it, I don't care how many brown-outs it causes when I'm printing something (seriously, it dims the lights when it fires up).

I'll only replace it with an equally beefy color laser printer.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will never not tell people how my old HP still works on cheap refills. HP will never see another dime from me.

[–] Dohnakun@lemmy.fmhy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

They were once capable.

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

My Canon wouldn't scan a document to store on my PC because I was out of yellow ink

I haven't given them another cent and it's been 15 years. Fuck you Canon. Fuck you HP

[–] joneskind@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

The last printer I bought was a shitty $80 Samsung Laser Printer that still works on its original toner after 10 years. The print quality is terrible but it’s still the best deal I ever had on a printer.

[–] Gorvin@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

When you lack black ink, the printer judt grabs the other colors until it makes black. Wich is kind of annoying since it's the cheapest toner.

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@feddit.ch 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I had this situation with my Epson

[–] kaito@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Had this problem with Epson many eons ago. It's wild to think about throwing away CMY cartridges when it still has usable ink.

[–] Aussiemandeus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just buy a new printer each time it runs out of ink

[–] agentshags@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably cheaper in the long-run lol

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

The cartridges that come with printers are reduced volume.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What does HP stand for? I think this post isn't related to health points or Harry Potter.

[–] CreeperElement@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

HP is a brand that makes printers. But more recently they've started moving into the ink / ink subscription business.

Or it maybe stands for HungryPhrog????

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] Metallibus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Hewlett Packard

[–] Poe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Horrible Products

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[–] mycoxadril@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

As somebody who didn’t, for once, have this specific problem today, but had a printing problem nonetheless, I feel so triggered by this post.

Why the actual fuck is printing so much harder today than it was a decade ago. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills that we are halfway through 2023 and I have more printing issues than I did even 4-5 years ago, let alone back in the golden days of literally never having printing issues in the first half of my lifetime.

[–] Thoxy@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

This is not only HP my old Epson too. Now my Xerox laser try to print even if no more toner inside 😅

[–] daddyrat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] Under_enrage@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

my parent bought a HP deskjet printer for us, but the ink is so expensive that any picture needs be small that the ink don't run out as quickly. and the software is garbage too.

[–] JohnBoBon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And that isn't even getting into their drivers and software. Foolish me bought a printer with a scanner and thought I'd be able to just install one little piece of software and be able to print and scan. How silly of me to forget that I to search Google to find instructions that weren't provided by HP, and download an application that the printer's instructions did not tell me to install, in order to get the it working.

I almost want this printer to die just so I can never own an HP printer again in my life.

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