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White House press officials altered the official transcript of a call in which President Joe Biden appeared to take a swipe at supporters of Donald Trump, drawing objections from the federal workers who document such remarks for posterity, according to two U.S. government officials and an internal email obtained Thursday by The Associated Press.

Biden, according to a transcript prepared by the official White House stenographers, told the Latino group on a Tuesday evening video call, “The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters — his — his demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it’s un-American.”

The transcript released by the White House press office, however, rendered the quote with an apostrophe, reading “supporter’s” rather than “supporters,” which aides said pointed to Biden criticizing Hinchcliffe, not the millions of Americans who are supporting Trump for president.

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[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This is about an apostrophe from a verbal statement.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, honestly..."altered" in a headline is itself biased, when "corrected" is entirely plausible. The transcriber had no idea if Biden meant to have an apostrophe there.

Also, maybe spend the final week of what could be our final democratic election covering something of importance, AP.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

This isn't the first time.

It's made headlines at least twice, but we only hear about it when the stenographers complain

Obviously it's not the end of the world, but that doesn't mean we have to accept revisionism.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I used to transcribe podcasts and you make damned sure that what was said - including every "umm", (long pause) or questionable comment - is what you typed out.

I would think for the WH stenographers they would be mandated to do that.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And how can you tell if he said apostrophe?

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The context of the words before and after.

“The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters — his — his demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it’s un-American.”

Making the word "supporters" possessive means the sentence makes no sense at all.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporter's demonization of Latinos.

Makes sense to me.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's explained in the summary you posted.

The transcript released by the White House press office, however, rendered the quote with an apostrophe, reading “supporter’s” rather than “supporters,” which aides said pointed to Biden criticizing Hinchcliffe, not the millions of Americans who are supporting Trump for president.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Oh you’re missing a [garbage].

“The only employees out there are Bobs” vs “The only employees out there are Bob’s [employees]”

Is it the best and most precise English? No, it’s a known trait of Biden’s that he trips over words and doesn’t have the best intuitive sense of sentence structure when he’s speaking informally. Especially when he’s relaxed enough to let his stutter through. Personally as a fellow stutterer I find it relatable.

[–] dgmib@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Did you read the article? The difference between the two transcripts was:

“The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters”

vs

“The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporter’s”

And stenographers use a special keyboard that records phonics, not words. It doesn’t have punctuation. That gets added later.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Absolutely. Did you do so in a language in which an unvoiced apostrophe is the difference between the possessive and plural? Because here in English, at least the American variety we do that

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's so unfair of Biden to call the racists, white supremacist, christofascists, aggrieved white man babies, misogynists, xenophobes, neo fascists, antivaxers, and others who support Trump, "garbage".

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Serious, own it man, they have been irredeemable filth for centuries, they still fly the flag of racist genocidal treason.

Call a spade a spade and inbred trash, trash.

And with that, I'm heading out to go vote.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've said that often. If you're a racist, just own it. Loud and proud. If you're right show your colors and let everyone know what you are.

No? Because you know you're a fetid shitsack?

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because you have nothing else, all you have is the absolute certainty deep inside that you're better than everyone else, because.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I'm going to call Biden the worst possible insult I can think of because of what he said: deplorable.

[–] Arsecroft@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 2 weeks ago

I will not be voting for this man!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The transcript released by the White House press office, however, rendered the quote with an apostrophe, reading “supporter’s” rather than “supporters,”

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago

That's some bullshit backpedaling. It's clear what what was meant. Just own it, because it's the truth. Trying to hide behind an apostrophe just feels weasely.

[–] Coach@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Solid evidence of media bias. Trump can call Harris a whore, prostitute, moron, enemy from within, but "garbage"? We draw the line at "garbage"? What ever happened to JD Vance's, "we have to stop getting so offended"? Puhlease, American media. Boo this writer.

[–] Steve@communick.news 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If there is one thing Democrats can learn from Republicans, it's to shamelessly own your beliefs. Don't try to cover them up, walk them back, or deny them.

When they called Harris a DEI hire, should have said "Fuck yah she is! And should be!"

Trump calls lefty liberals the enemy within? Biden can call Trump supporters trash. Personally I'd call them American Taliban.