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OK, its just a deer, but the future is clear. These things are going to start kill people left and right.

How many kids is Elon going to kill before we shut him down? Whats the number of children we're going to allow Elon to murder every year?

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[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It doesn't have to not kill people to be an improvement, it just has to kill less people than people do

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

True in a purely logical sense, but assigning liability is a huge issue for self-driving vehicles.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

don't most cars have proximity and collision detectors now?

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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Is there a longer video anywhere? Looking closely I have to wonder where the hell did that deer come from? There's a car up ahead of the Tesla in the same lane, I presume quickly moved back in once it passed the deer? The deer didn't spook or anything from that car?

This would have been hard for a human driver to avoid hitting, but I know the issue is the right equipment would have been better than human vision, which should be the goal. And it didn't detect the impact either since it didn't stop.

But I just think it's peculiar that that deer just literally popped there without any sign of motion.

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[–] Fleur_@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I cannot support tesla now that I know they aren't vegan smh

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It kills the deer and keeps on going, it doesn't stop to let you collect it so you can eat it. They are chaotic evil vegans.

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[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Honestly, I’m surprised the car was still in one piece. I’ve seen semi-trucks disintegrate after hitting a dear.

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[–] Grangle1@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I know a lot of people here are/will be mad at Musk simply for personal political disagreement, but even just putting that aside, I've never liked the idea of self-driving cars. There's just too much that can go wrong too easily, and in a 1-ton piece of metal and glass moving at speeds up to near 100 mph, you need to be able to have the control enough to respond within a few seconds if the unexpected happens, like a deer jumping in the middle of the road. Computers don't, and may never, have the benefit of contextual awareness to make the right decision as often as a human would in those situations. I'm not going to cheer for the downfall of Musk or Tesla as a whole, but they do severely need to reconsider this idea or else there will be a lot of people hurt and/or killed and a lot of liability on them when it happens. That's a lot of risk to take on for a smaller auto maker like them, just thinking in business terms.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I mean we do let humans drive cars and some of them are as dumb as bricks and some are malicious little freaks.

Not saying we are anywhere FSD and Elon is a clown, but I would support a future with this technology if we ever got there. The issue is we would have to be all or nothing. Like you can’t have a mix of robots and people driving around.

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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

An FSD car that makes perfect decisions would theoretically be safer than a human driver who also makes perfect decisions, if for no other reason than the car could do it faster.

Personally, I would love to see autonomous cars see widespread use. They don't have to be perfect, just safer mile-for-mile than human drivers. (Which means that Teslas, with Musk's gobsmackingly stupid insistence on only using cameras, will never reach that threshold).

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago

Whats the number of children we’re going to allow Elon to murder every year?

What's the number of adults?

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