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[–] Kyoyeou@lemmy.world 199 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Man this creator keeps on giving, making YouTube better than Google does so

[–] Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml 114 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It's pretty telling a platform like YouTube really only gets fully enjoyable with an adblocker, sponsorblock and this. I wish PeerTube had a lot of good creators, but last time I checked (years ago, admittedly) it was mostly conspiracy theorists and cryptobros.

[–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (8 children)

The problem with PeerTube is that there's no built-in way for creators to get paid. If there are no ads or sponsors, then the only alternative is some kind of value for value system like what Podcasting 2.0 has. Until some kind of well integrated funding system gets built for PeerTube, creators really are not going to be incentivized to publish stuff on the platform.

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[–] Knusper@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago

https://tilvids.com has some reasonable ones, although they're often just as well YouTubers, so you get similar clickbait, unfortunately.

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[–] DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 139 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I did the opposite. I installed an addon that adds Mr Beast to every thumbnail.

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 109 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I've used it for exactly three minutes and this is already amazing. I hope it gets integrated into ReVanced and Newpipe.

[–] SmallAlmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I would love it on Piped, they already have sponsorblock

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[–] Acid@startrek.website 92 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Really good extension, I've added it to my browser.

While some creators like Linus have said they dislike the clickbaity titles and thumbnails but they have to do it due to engagement that's simply because the younger generations are the ones engaging with that content. As an older person I'd rather just have a to the point description of what I'm going to get.

[–] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I might get it for the titles alone. The clickbaity thumbnails don't really bother me, but I'd like to have a good title at least.

[–] Acid@startrek.website 18 points 1 year ago

Yeah the titles are actually a huge draw for me.

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[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don’t think it can be said to conclusively be an age issue. I assure you that many Boomers and older Xers love clickbait titles.

It’s a more granular demographic than just age.

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[–] Tanoh@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (14 children)

There is a reason clickbait images and titles are used, they work. If they didn't work, no one would use them.

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[–] restarossa@infosec.pub 73 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But I don't want to reward people that do this by watching their videos

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[–] noodlejetski@geddit.social 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

actual link: https://dearrow.ajay.app/

made by the creator of SponsorBlock.

[–] GammaScorpii@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also be sure to get the restore YouTube dislike button extension

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago (15 children)

As well as uBlock Origin, Sponsorblock and BlockTube.

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[–] QubaXR@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Love the idea, but just to be the devil's advocate, I think it will just mask garbage videos. Currently, the clickbait thumbnails and titles are an indicator to blacklist a channel, without having to waste time watching it.

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately because of the way Youtube's algorithm works, even high quality channels are buried if they don't play the game.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Yeah, even good ones do it.

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[–] ajay@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

If you look at the DeArrow website and browser extension pages, I made sure to only use high quality channels as examples (Tom Scott, CGP Grey) to demonstrate how far reaching the sensationalism problem is.

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[–] tabular@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

This add-on needs to:

  • Store unlimited amount of client-side data
  • Access your data for sites in the googlevideo.com domain
  • Access your data for sites in the youtube.com domain
  • Access your data for sponsor.ajay.app
  • Access your data for dearrow-thumb.ajay.app
  • Access your data for www.youtube-nocookie.com

This add-on may also ask to: **Access your data for all websites

Is there a better option than for it to need unlimited amount of client-side data? Also, why "Access your data for all websites"?-

[–] ajay@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Creator of theq extension here, that is an optional permissions (may ask). It is never asks to access all sites, it only optionally let's you add support for additional sites such as different Invidious instances.

Support for invidious is not actually done yet, so right now, it never asks for permission for any new sites anyway

The client side data is used to store your submissions to always show your preferred title, even if there is another submission on the server. You can disable this option in the settings

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[–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago

Access your data for all websites

It's required to access iframes.

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[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There is also an extension that adds Mr Beast to every thumbnail

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[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Google's algorithm has forced people into using click bait thumbnails and titles. If they don't attract more views and subscribers, then their channels are not pushed.

[–] 80085@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I think a bigger problem is they demonetize and depromote any video discussing a controversial or kid-unfriendly topic. This affects the actual content.

Also, don't forget to subscribe, hit that like button, smash that bell, and leave a comment letting me know what you think!

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[–] verysoft@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I kind of like seeing the clickbait, it lets me know which videos/channels arent worth my time. I know most use at least a little clickbait these days, but from the better channels its usually managable and still on topic (like the Real Engineering example shown here, whereas the others are complete clickbait that I would avoid).

[–] 4815162342@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've tried a similar extension/add-on before called Clickbait Remover for Youtube, but I got rid of it.

The custom thumbnails aren't the issue. The issue is that so many people are chasing the algorithm and do stupid stuff in that effort. If you watch people who don't do that it's basically a non-issue. If a channel that makes clickbait garbage thumbnails pops up I just click to not have the channel recommended again, and that has worked pretty well.

[–] FloridaUX@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If a channel that makes clickbait garbage thumbnails pops up I just click to not have the channel recommended again, and that has worked pretty well.

Clickbait works and I encourage all YouTubers that I watch to do so. The more people they reach, the more money they earn and the better their content can become. Outside of a minor annoyance to the superusers, using clickbait titles and thumbnails is just good business. Even the very best content producers in their category (Veritasium in educational content, MKBHD for tech reviewing are great examples) use it because they have to: but lots of them dislike doing it. Veritasium has two great videos about it: clickbaiting is a HUGE benefit to any YouTube channel, a good thumbnail alone can account for 20-50% of all views on a video.

Imagine it like this: every time you pay for anything, you get a free 30% discount if you pinch yourself in the arm. Wouldn't you always just do it? Who cares about the minor annoyance.

That's what it's like for the content creator. Put 30 minutes of work into a clickbait thumbnail + title and it's 30% more views on every single video.

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[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don't mind the clickbait as much because I've learned to filter the crap out to some degree (following F1 channels does that to a mf), but still, anything to keep the bullshit to a minimum.

This should be a part of newpipe.

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[–] PBCrisps@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I installed this app and looked up some Mr. Beast vids as a test. If anything, it made more tempted to check out his vids just because I don't have to see his annoying giant soyface in every thumbnail now.

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[–] nameisnotimportant@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I never thought it could be possible to do that, thank you so much for this and making YouTube a better place.

If someone knows how to get rid of shorts in the search results I'd be most grateful 👌

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[–] Lemmyuser_Guest@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

We need this on Revanced too. Also on NewpipeXSponserblock.

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[–] Graphine@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tbf I can't think of any instance where Marques has click baited. At most they're just obnoxious. But it's been proven to work, as dumb as it is. Also Marques's thumbnails are nowhere near as cringe as other Youtubers.

While I wish the days of 2007-2013 YouTube returned to the non clickbait and non garbage thumbnails, those days are over. I'd rather have the obnoxious thumbnails so I know which creators are trash.

[–] Anestoh@lemm.ee 49 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I don't know who this person is, but the example in the OP is definitely clickbait. "This phone is nearly perfect" but doesn't say what the phone is, baiting you to click for the answer instead of just mentioning what phone we're reviewing.

No judgement, it's his business and he's gotta make money, but saying he doesn't do this just seems demonstrably wrong.

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[–] ArchTemperedKoala@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man, I wish this is available for my TV..

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[–] IndisposedShakerCup@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah but that reading rainbow thumbnail is fire

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[–] yousirname@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Can newpipe implement this please

[–] NewBrainWhoThis@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Basically an Adblocker for your brain... nice!

[–] jackyard86@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can assume how good the inside content would be from a specific video by looking at its title and thumbnail. I'd rather not using it.

[–] ajay@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

on the extreme levels, yes, but almost everyone on the platform does some form of deception to convince you to click.

Like it says on the dearrow website:

"Clickbait" isn't the exception anymore, it's becoming the norm. Many have even started going through their entire backlog, changing old titles and thumbnails to be more attention grabbing and vague.

It's no one's fault. It's a system that creates a race to the bottom.

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[–] ddonuts4@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I just use the tried and true method of unsubscribing and watching another channel

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[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've used clickbait remover addon for more than a year now. I vastly prefer just a random screenshot as a thumbnail than those custom ones.

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