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Just looking on youtube, you can find binaural beats for pretty much anything: inflammation cure, pain relief, changing your eye colour, finding love and becoming rich. All the ones I've looked at feature comments from people claiming they've helped them.
They can't possibly do all of the above and I don't think there a studies proving anything but a placebo effect.
And, without truly believing in them, they never had any effect on me. I've tried them in my youth.
I wouldn't say I "believed" but I tried it with an open mind expecting SOMETHING to happen. I borrowed some expensive headphones from the audio production department at school, got relaxed in my bed with a couple candles going, plugged into my nice DAC and.....all I got was bored. I went through like 10 different tracks. Quite the disappointing experience.
What might be more useful would be to put it on in the background while you're falling asleep if you're in a situation where you can have noise while you're going to sleep
Theyβre good background music while studying, but not for any magical reason. Some just sound nice
My opinion is they are placebo but placebo actually can have effects because you believe they have effects.
I think about it, if you've been listening to binaural beats in order to find love don't you think that you're going to be more likely to find love and therefore you're going to be looking for opportunities to validate your beliefs?
If you are listening to binaural beats to lose weight don't you think that there's a chance that you will intentionally and willfully act in ways that will increase the likelihood that you will lose weight?
And the best part about placebo is even if you know it's a placebo effect it does not prevent it from actually working because humans are cool and weird and funny like that.
I think youβre totally on point! I think thatβs similar with other religious or spiritual practices, like specific meditations, spells, or rituals - youβre priming yourself to be more aware of opportunities to achieve that goal
I feel like as a staunch atheist that does his own research to be missing out on alot of placebo effects
Placebo doesn't work on me if I'm aware it's placebo. Which sucks. One day I got a headache, took a pill and miraculously, within two minutes the headache stopped. Then I was like "wait, it can't work that fast, it has to go through your stomach and whatnot". Headache returned and the pill never worked as fast ever since.
Studies are currently inconclusive on the efficacy of Binaural Beats. According to this meta analysis, five corroborate BB, and eight do not.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0286023
So it's still woo until studies consistently fail to disprove that BB does anything.
Anecdotally, I believe they can induce relaxation or stimulation via entrainment. Like if you listen to something low and soft, I think that relaxes you and something high-pitched and loud stimulates
Right, but that's exactly it. It's still only just anecdotes and subjective claims. It might be that it's indeed a valid form of treatment, but the evidence we have doesn't seem to point to that as a rational conclusion.
Whatever you personally experience might in fact be a placebo effect or confirmation bias.
What speakers do you have that actually produce sound waves that low? Most subwoofers only go down to 20hz since thats about the lowest frequencies humans can hear. Maybe 15hz for a surround sound system so that sound effects can shake the floor when you're watching a movie or something. But 2hz is crazy.
I've tried listening to them but never really experienced much, but then again I didn't know what they were supposed to do so maybe the placebo didn't have a chance to work.
I think the trick is that they use the differential in two higher pitched waves and your brain creates the lower pitch rather than the speaker.
Like it oscillates both 400HZ and 402HZ and your brain creates that 2HZ delta or something
Ah okay, that makes more sense. Thanks for explaining.
I've played in orchestras for most of my life, so I'm sure I've been inadvertently exposed to some binaural beats when the people around me can't play in tune. I can't say it made me feel particularly good, but it certainly had an effect on me in hindsight.
If you have iphone i can recommene a sample app to try out and if you want share your input about using
I typically listen to these after taking my morning LSD, and do get some psychoactive effects. Strangely the effects are completely different if I take amphetamines or light up the afternoon crack pipe before listening.
Seriously tho, I just started to listen to this for the first time ever, and it does work as a pretty effective and non-intrusive noise blocker. Easy to ignore.
Edit: never mind the second point, the surroundings just got quieter at the same time I started to listen.
morning LSD
I like you Already
I typically listen to these after taking my morning LSD
Best time to do LSD. Can still go to bed on time and get a good night sleep.
I find them fascinating, but have never found they have such a dramatic effect. Though I tried the Gateway Experience tapes for awhile and definitely slept better when I used them, despite a decided lack of astral travel or whatever.
interesting, give me some of the good ones.
I want to try it out, I don't even know what it is really.
I've used this giorgio regni app on Android for years with various random earbuds.
The only option on its menu that reliably does anything for me is called "morphine pain killer", but it was a game changer for me for incapacitating sea sickness (believe me I had tried so many things I don't think I had any placebo potential left). On land, I've found it effective for post surgery pain, nerve pain, and even the odd depressive crying jag. I guess at this point I'm a believer so I'd be curious to know what effect it has on a "fresh" patient. I don't think I've tried it just for kicks, though, so not sure what you'll notice if you're already feeling ok.
The f-Droid link if you want it to be a bit more privacy friendly.
okay, thanks.
that's very interesting.
i am going through a sober, healthy jag right now and feel pretty good, but i have saved this comment and will give this a try when I'm not feeling so great.
Do you have iPhone?
Android
BrainWave (Advanced Binaural Programs). They have a few but thats the main best of the worlds one
these guys?
Not sure but make sure its BrainWave (no plural). Not sure if they do Android, I'm on iOS
ahhahah, whaaat, dude, that Myspace-looking page is insane!
I can't find links for iOS or Android on that page.
but I appreciate you bringing up binaural beats at all. I'll check out whatever's on the Play Store and see what happens.
Yeah just try to find whats super popular on PlayStore, its cool shit
Edit: i didnt even realize Huberman mentioned them, good on them tho
I also kinda like their page. Its nice when its not always super slick all the time and you get something a little more earthy
Maybe a good speaker helps. I've tried them before and they're good background noise for flights, but that's about all I've gotten out of them.
Has anyone tried these in combination with bone conduction headphones?
Similarly, I have found it quite sensual to put the speaker on the back of my neck/spine
