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[–] IDatedSuccubi@lemmy.world 96 points 1 year ago (7 children)

This is what I and many other programmers have done (not the removal, but fake delays), because it improves user experience, actually:

1.When the user clicks a button that should take long in their mind (like uncompressing a zip file etc) but is actually fast, it might seem like something is wrong and it didn't work

2.When the user transitions between layouts of the application, if it loads everything too fast it will look too abrupt, a fake delay will be made here if a transition animation is not possible/doesn't fit

[–] alokir@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

I was working on an enterprise web application, there was a legacy system that everyone hated and we replaced it with a more modern one.

We got a ticket from our PO to introduce a 30 sec delay to one of our buttons. It sounded insane, but he explained that L1 support got too many calls and emails where users thought said button was broken.

It wasn't, they were just used to having to wait up to 5 minutes for it to finish doing its thing, so they didn't notice when it did it instantly.

We gradually removed that delay, 10 seconds each month, and our users were very happy.

[–] Flaky_Fish69@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

next, you'll tell people the door close button in elevators doesn't actually work.

[–] IDatedSuccubi@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm pretty sure it's either a myth (that it doesn't work) or some US-centric thing, because when I worked as a delivery guy, I used to go through probably hundreds of different elevators in high-density residential buildings, and most of them have doors that stay open very long to allow baby strollers and heavy appliances to be placed inside, and on pretty much all of these the door closing button works, immediately closing the door

[–] stankmut@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Most elevators I've seen in the US have a minimum time for the doors to be open. Hitting the closed button won't do anything, unless you had hit the open door button to keep them open past that time. So if you hit the open door button right before the doors closed to let someone in and they tell you they are actually going down, you can hit the close button and it'll immediately close.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It’s entirely configurable, and up to the building management. While there is likely a “local default” that doesn’t mean it can’t be changed.

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The door close button does nothing in Canada but in the middle east it actually works immediately. I was shocked when I tried in the middle east I used to just do it for fun in Canada.

[–] CommunicationOk3492@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

In Germany it also works as expected. I remember that we always pressed it like crazy in university when the elevator was already very full, so it didn’t even open when it stopped before the ground level.

[–] ramplay@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Works in 90% of the elevators I take in Canada 🤷‍♂️

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Maybe I'm unlucky

[–] meisme@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

They work in Canada but not America

[–] exu@feditown.com 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there a secret flag to disable the delays? Would be kinda awesome to have for "thosa in the know"

[–] IDatedSuccubi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Most probably not, at least in my programs I've never made a flag, because my delays are usually no more than 3 seconds anyway

[–] sp00nix@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

There was a financial calculator from HP that they made for decades. The newer ones were so fast doing large mortgage calculations that the users didn't trust it, so they intentionally slowed down the results.

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First reason is just poor UI design. I'm sure there are billion ways to indicate a successful action even if it was immediate.

[–] pineapple_santa@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Imagine asking a person a math question like what 2 times 3 times 7 is (without you knowing the answer). If that person immediately goes like „42“ you‘ll most likely think that it’s a joke response and the person doesn’t take your question seriously. If however that person takes a few seconds to think you are much more likely to believe the answer.

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

With your overly simple example I would totally believe that person. With harder problems perhaps. Besides, machines are not human.

[–] zbecker@mastodon.zbecker.cc -1 points 1 year ago

@IDatedSuccubi @Shady_Shiroe

As CS major, 1 bothers me so much.

I see it all the time especially on calculator sites.

[–] Ducks@ducks.dev 40 points 1 year ago

Used to work with a guy who would put 3 second sleeps after every line in our Jenkins file. He would then say how he's so busy because he has no time when he's always waiting for builds to run.

Chris, everyone knows what you were doing.

[–] rooster_butt@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is an old strategy described in this article from 2008: The Speedup Loop

[–] stardust@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was just about to share that article. Definitely worth the read for anyone wondering!

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 year ago

"That is genius" - Elon Musk

[–] ch1nomachin3@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

uh oh you need to buy the new iphone because the current update makes your old iphone too slow to use.😉

[–] director@some.institute 19 points 1 year ago

You have to create your database without any indexes, then you can add them later for a speed boost

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Users hate this one weird trick.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The trick is to have users in the first place if your new tool sucks due to slowness.

[–] randomOrange@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

yeah, oldest trick in the book

[–] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 1 points 1 year ago

For even better payoff reduce the sleep by 100-500 per major update

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Who needs to add Sleep calls when you can just do your shitty every day naive implementation and let your future colleagues fix your mess.

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