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[–] index@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

timesofmalta... this reminded me of the maltase journalist who was car bombed there

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daphne_Caruana_Galizia

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

According to preliminary reports, the vehicle rammed into several road signs at high speed.

Place your bet. 1.5x reward for people placing bet on faulty "F"SD.

Edit: so FSD is off the bet.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I place my bet on the brake paddle slipping off. It's a known issue.

Edit: Apaprently it affected cybertrucks, not Model 3

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[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago

FSD is not available in France.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Sorry to burst your bubble, but FSD isn't available in France.

[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 155 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Tesla, founded by the billionaire CEO Elon Musk, has frequently faced scrutiny over safety issues.

That is incorrect

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is this the company where he paid a sum of money to the real founder or founders to be called the founder?
Or was that another company?

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Correct on the first part, I don't know if he did it for other companies as well.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thanks! So he's the $$$paidtobecalledafounderlikeastupididiot$$$ of this company.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

And it worked. That's the worst part. This article and others call him the founder.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 58 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It is legally correct, but factually incorrect.

[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Legally how? Was Musk on the original state registration?

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 55 points 2 days ago (3 children)

He sued for the title and won.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 60 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I’m too petty to be a reporter, every time I’d write: “musk, who retroactively won the right to be considered a founder of Tesla in court, …”

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"X, formerly known as Twitter"

[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Twitter, now known to some as X, ...

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[–] BenReilly97@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

It'd also be technically true to say "Elon Musk, CEO and self-proclaimed founder of Tesla..."

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[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)
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[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It was Saturday evening around 10pm, three restaurant employees went into one of the client car to "try it out", the client (65 years old) was clearly speeding, lost control of the vehicle, left the road and hit a traffic sign.

My bet is that all of that has nothing to do with the fact that this was a Tesla, the only difference is the fire but this is the same for every electric vehicle.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah but nobody will click a headline like 'person killed in car crash after speeding and hitting a traffic sign'

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

i wonder if they were unable to open the doors for some non-tesla related reason such as death

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do you have a source?

None of the articles that I checked this morning had that info.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)
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[–] WolvenSpectre@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Hmmm I wonder if a vehicle filled with flammable explodey-gas who just drove over 2 metal signs at high speed would be on fire as well? Would it have gotten the attention that this vehicle had, given that ICE cars burn many times more often than EV's do.

It is a tragedy and should be investigated but these articles have to get off the "It's new so it's bad" bandwagon until the investigators come in. It could have been a flat tire at high speeds that sent the car onto that shoulder and over those signs. There is uneven wear on the tires so on the outside of Regenerative Breaking EV's tires look almost new on the outside but trashed on the inside. If it blew because of that, or some nail on the road then there is no fault on Tesla and the man-boy who runs it. If however say steering went or the airbag randomly went off when the car was at speed my least favourite Martian and Tesla would be culpable.

Until then turn the sensationalism on your stories down to 11.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I'm a fan of EVs, but Tesla lacks ~~security~~ safety and I'm not a fan of it.

It's too complicated to leave the car when power is off for example.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Yep. That's my issue. It's not the fire, it's that it's really hard to get out in a disaster.

The Tesla could just have easily killed four if it crashed into water.

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[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 days ago (4 children)

If I recall correctly, the manual override for the electric inner door handle is hidden under some panel. Major lawsuit material if you ask me, and irresponsible by the certifying authorities,

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[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

no, it wouldn't. Because the car is not filled with aerosolized explodey-gas, but just flammable liquid contained in a robust tank. it is not explosive. It can catch fire, but not simply from impact. You'd need a hole in the tank lower than the current fuel level and an external ignition source. Even if you shoot the gas tank directly, it will not explode. It is physically impossible for it to explode.

Puncture one of an electric car's cells, and it sets off a chain reaction. The whole car very quickly goes up in flames.

[–] Strykker@programming.dev 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A hit car engine is an external ignition source, and gas cars go up in flames daily in the us

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[–] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Some reasons why they probably would be fine in a normal car

  1. Central computer controls everything. A crashing computer means a crashing car

  2. Electronic door locks. When you crash youre going to have a hard time opening the door

  3. Shatterproof windows mean if your door won't open, you're BBQ

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[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (4 children)

If Musk can remote disable the car, can he remote lock the doors and have it speed up?

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 40 points 2 days ago

Can a malicious actor remotely do stuff with your thing you connected to the internet?

Yes.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

He'll never admit it, but I wouldn't be surprised if he can.

[–] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

If elon can change the breaking for Full Self Driving, he can disable brakes. I wouldn't be surprised to learn if some people figure out how to backdoor a Tesla and disable breaks. Companies are horrible at securing data and with elons fire 50% of employees mentality I wouldn't be surprised if the cybersecurity people get overworked/mess up one day

"Brakes", please.

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[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

And if he can, who else can?

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[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 days ago

I'm halfway through rewatching Demolition Man as of yesterday evening. Simon Phoenix blew up the capacitance gel in a car using one of the cop's electrical night sticks. I can only assume that Musk is now going to unfreeze John Spartan to deal with these crimes.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

Pretty much all forms of vehicle transport is unsafe. This is why electric cars should be thought of as: good but not ideal.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

This is true, yeah. He bought the title of founder.

[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ooooo sorry, you waived your right to a trail by jury in the EULA you signed.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago

Not in the EU you didn't.

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