Another dinosaur from the past century resisting ~~21th~~21st century.
this post was submitted on 14 Jul 2023
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Meanwhile, back in reality, my company isn't upside down on commercial real estate & likes making more money so we are getting a smaller office to house our servers & equipment.
My company did the same. We had a six week assessment period where everyone was required to come in two days per week. Once that data showed no major difference in output, we got a smaller office (for receiving and such) and everyone was told the office is optional. Smart business that kept people happy.
This right here.
Find me a company deeply invested in office real estate (in particular, expecting a return on that real estate), and I'll show you a company against remote work.
The real detriments don't exist. True, I have met workers that don't like remote work: companies have latched on to those people as an excuse to continue what is otherwise an entirely transparent narrative.
If anything I gain productivity by working from home. I see companies that don't support that kind of work as entirely being behind the curve.
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Twenty-oneth century
I think it's pronounced, "twenty-firth century"
"twenty-firth thentury"
FTFY
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“We're not going to make that decision because we're pandering to employees”
Is there such a thing as “pandering to employees”? The employees are doing the real work to keep the company going, while Dimon’s work apparently includes appearing on news stations ridiculing said employees.
Hopefully the next headline we hear about J.P. Morgan will be a mass voluntary attrition.
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His employees should take him up on that.
This is the ONLY thing they listen to. If you want to work from home and your employer doesn't let you, it's time to quit.
I have nothing bad to say about people who prefer going in to the office. I respect your preference and I understand it is necessary for some positions. You are valuable, too, and there's plenty of places that would love to have you.
There's room in this work world for both types of jobs. It's not an either-or choice.
Anyone who can WFH and wants to WFH should be allowed to do so, full stop.
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never had a good experience dealing with Chase, I guess leadership feels the same for the employees?
They say the fish stinks from the head. Jamie Dimon is your typical corporate CEO asshole. I wouldn't expect any different.
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That's OK, I didn't have any desire to work for that asshole anyway...
Most folks are exponentially more productive when they don't have to waste hours of their day (stressfully) driving/public transit from A to B just to do their job.
I am way more productive when I'm not also being constantly interrupted by the people around me all day long. When I sit down to work at home I will go hours without even looking up from my screen. When my attention is interrupted in the office, which happens regularly, it takes me a good 5-7min to focus again. Repeat that same process a couple times an hour and not a lot gets done.
I can't believe how much time I waste in the office. It's unbelievable. I will say that certain meetings in the office are better. However, maybe a day or so for those but for the most part. It's such a waste.
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Gee, I wonder how much he and JPMorgan are invested in commercial real estate.
... and car manufacturers, and oil companies, and tire companies, and the fast food franchises lining every freeway exit...
Ill give you a hint: JPMC owns one of the largest buildings in the United States, second only to the Pentagon. Their Columbus location is a multi-mile long, 6 story, repurposed Mall. And thats just one of 8 Non-Branch locations they use in Columbus.
I know dozens of people who work there. Most hate it
Parking is atrocious and you have to walk like 10 minutes from your spot to the building. And then I'm the building another 5 to your office
Oh and you thought you were leaving at 5? It's a 30 minute commute just from the parking lot to the first street because of the traffic
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I'm betting he is heavily invested in commercial real estate. Empty buildings means losing money.
Almost certainly. Just like the office furniture company that put out this anti-WFH "news article".
Seems to be a common theme among office furniture companies, get a load of this bitch
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the same management who wanted everyone to return to the office are the same people who are still joining Zoom calls from home.
The reality is that Jaime Dimon is out of touch. On last year's employee conference call, he was asked about return to office and how WFH has opened up significant flexibility for employees personal lives, specifically, children's doctors appointments. He responded that your nanny should be taking the kids to your kids doctor's appointments so you can work at the office.
And that's how you lose talent...
I don't mind visiting the office once in awhile, say 2 or 3 times a month. But to mandate it to every day is asinine. I'm never going back to wasting 3 hours a day sitting in a train/stuck in traffic.
Pay people during their commutes, they “clock in” as soon as they get into their cars and “clock out” only when they get home.
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So he's going to limit his talent pool to people who both live within commuting distance and aren't good enough at their jobs to find remote work.
That's a bold choice.
Jamie Dimon can suck a turd, then.
I bet he said this from an "off-site" and hasn't been in the office in weeks
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Nobody should listen to billionaire boomer fucks.
Jamie Dimon (compensation 34.5 million 2022) says what?
Too many people think rich and in charge = smart and reasonable.
I'm all for coming into the office, but I'm no longer commuting on my own dime. You want me in the office, for some messed up reason, my commute is on the clock.
My job requires me to come in twice a week. You bet your ass I clock in as soon as my head rolls off the pillow on those days.
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Jamie Dimon can just fg ahead and make his millions without any employees, that will maximize his profits too.
I always raise an eyebrow when people generally claim remote "just does not work." This seems to imply they've only tried one or two ways to set up a remote workforce because there simply hasn't been enough time to honestly try several permutations.
I agree that some jobs cannot do it (those where physically it can't be done, like manufacturing or lab work). But with such a service-based economy, the number of jobs that can be remote is only increasing.
I think it's ultimately more a reflection of an unwillingness or inability to fundamentally restructure the way teams complete work and collaborate. It assumes the way offices work is objectively correct and must be maintained.
The managing challenges of remote work are just different than in-office; they are not more numerous. In-office environments are littered with ineffective, overbearing, and/or intrusive management styles. Management is always squawking that their workers need to be agile and adapt, but they are rarely willing to do the same.
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My employer would beg to differ. Seeing as they pay my mortgage and not him, he is irrelevant.
I worked for JPMorgan Chase before and this doesn't surprise me one bit. Such a backasswards company that cares little for its customers or its employees. I will forever avoid doing any sort of business with Chase for as long as I live. Complete trash.
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All the valuable employees: go to work somewhere else
Jamie Dimon: shocked Pikachu
he probably owns office real estate.
I completely agree! See you never bucko
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