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Kamala Harris’s running mate urges popular vote system but campaign says issue is not part of Democrats’ agenda

Tim Walz, the Democratic vice-presidential nominee, has called for the electoral college system of electing US presidents to be abolished and replaced with a popular vote principle, as operates in most democracies.

His comments – to an audience of party fundraisers – chime with the sentiments of a majority of American voters but risk destabilising the campaign of Kamala Harris, the Democratic presidential candidate, who has not adopted a position on the matter, despite having previously voiced similar views.

"I think all of us know, the electoral college needs to go," Walz told donors at a gathering at the home of the California governor, Gavin Newsom. "We need a national popular vote. We need to be able to go into York, Pennsylvania, and win. We need to be in western Wisconsin and win. We need to be in Reno, Nevada, and win."


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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 13 points 6 days ago

Even if we keep the electoral college as a means of allocating points we need to get rid of the electors. I've been saying this since before Jan 6th 2021.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 137 points 1 week ago (16 children)

but campaign says issue is not part of Democrats’ agenda

Fucking hell! Every time either of them says something truly based, some DNC lackey comes and spoils it by saying that! 🤬

[–] queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

And all interest in this statement was lost in record time. Even though it would help Democrats win every time, as swing states would stop being a thing, and the Democrat voters in Wyoming and Texas and every other sold-red state is now something to seriously count.

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee -3 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Isn't this kind of missing the point, though? The reason neither party wants to change a thing about the current system is the whole point of abolishing the electoral college is to remove the spoiler effect that eventually leads to a two party system. If the electoral college ends, there's no such thing as swing states, gerrymandering will be moot, candidates will actually have to have policies that people want, they'll have to actually campaign, and many corporate "Democrats" will probably get outed by more progressive candidates.

There are other benefits, but I really don't see this getting any traction, regardless, until we can get money our of politics and a wealth tax that makes sense (like 70%+ on the ultra wealthy).

I agree with your sentiment that Democrat ideas -- more likely the progressive Democrat ideas -- will likely be the candidates that win the most. However, we'll likely never find out cause both parties will fight this with all of their being and financial ghouls.

[–] Maeve@midwest.social 3 points 5 days ago

There are other benefits, but I really don’t see this getting any traction, regardless, until we can get money our of politics and a wealth tax that makes sense (like 70%+ on the ultra wealthy).

Seems like an infinite loop by design.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 114 points 1 week ago (47 children)

It is the single most logical and devastating blow that the democratic party could work on to stop fascism.

Disallow corporate entities from owning residential property.

Increase minimum wage.

Break up monopolies and oligopolies to reintroduce competition. Get off this "stop price gouging greedflation" horse shit. Break up monopolies and oligopolies, lower the bar to competition.

End forced arbitration outright.

Set a maximum document length limit to stop frivolous lawsuits, "drowning in paperwork".

Set term limits for all govt positions, especially SCOTUS.

Harsher punishments to corporations. No more of these fines that are simply the cost of doing business. C suite execs should do time on behalf of law breaking 'corpirate citizens.'

Tax the fuck of our anything making over $100M in profit. I mean, the fuck out of it.

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[–] Heikki@lemm.ee 97 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)
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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 79 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I think at this point pretty much everyone I've ever talked to thinks the electoral college is bullshit. Even my dad and he's a trumper.

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[–] exemplariasuntomni@lemmings.world 71 points 6 days ago (28 children)

We are all slaves to the ruling class until this is done.

[–] Maeve@midwest.social 1 points 5 days ago

Maybe I'm to clinical but I think this means the petty bourgeois is a safe bet for the ruler class. That needs to change.

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[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (6 children)

While I agree with him, it’s also a stupid thing to say out loud during the election when they’re CLEARLY trying to sway moderate and uneasy right leaning voters.

[–] Furball@sh.itjust.works 135 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I think the electoral college has become pretty unpopular with pretty much everyone except committed republicans in recent years

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (23 children)

It's become unpopular with everyone except the people who originally demanded it so they could count their slaves as 3/5 of a vote.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Maybe they're finally realizing that instead of chasing right wing voters they should try to tap into the much larger pool of left-wing voters. Or at least one can hope.

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[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 32 points 5 days ago (8 children)

I think I want him to be president.

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