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This bot is spreading misinformation.

This bot is spreading rightwing propaganda.

This bot is spamming every post.

This bot is consistently downvoted.

This bot degrades the user experience.

Please ban it.

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[–] Blaze@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Is that thing still around? I thought it had been removed based on the feedback

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 months ago

Only one I saw removing it was news, even then it sounded more like removed until blows over

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It has been removed from some communities, but still in some.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 months ago

still around, the negative feedback is baseless so far

[–] UnityDevice@startrek.website 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The other day it labelled the internet archive as biased towards centre-left. The internet archive - it's like saying a stack of blank printer paper is biased. Beyond useless.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I mean reality has a left wing bias. I'd like to see someone cute their real world experiences and get the boy to say reality is left center.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

good point.

the internet: famously devoid of content.

[–] WoolyNelson@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Totally agree.

As a temporary measure, I have blocked that bot from my feed.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Same, it does wonders.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mods already said they won't remove it because they use it as a quick basis if articles get reported.

Which is kinda dumb because you could automate that client side without a community wide bot.

If they wanna have it, I'd rather have it link to a proper media aggregate site like ground news which combine both source reporting and published bias info from multiple sources:

[–] Rooki@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago

Hi,

we have already a link to ground news, and we try to get api access to other aggregators, but all have reall high prices or just dont have the wanted data. ( We dont want to scrape it as it could get us in legal troubles )

Thanks for your suggestion.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (8 children)
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[–] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Just block it if you don’t like it?

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Something so universally destructive to understanding is not an opt-out feature of any competent system.

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[–] Krono@lemmy.today 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

Why did you comment? If you followed your own logic then you would have just blocked me instead.

To be serious, I think it's much better for the community if we do not allow misinformation bots to spam every post.

[–] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because this is the first thing I think I’ve seen you post and blocking everything you disagree with seems sort of stupid?

I think the bot has issues, but I hardly agree that it’s posting misinformation. Incomplete? Imperfect? You bet. But that’s not “misinformation” in any commonly understood meaning. I think the intent of providing additional context on information sources is laudable.

As someone with such a distaste for misinformation, how would you suggest fixing it? That’s a much more useful discussion than “BAN THE THING I PERSONALLY AND SUBJECTIVELY THINK IS BAD!!!!” You obviously think misinformation is a problem, so why not suggest a solution?

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Currently the bot's media ratings come from just some guy, who is unaccountable and has an obvious rightwing bias.

If I were to suggest a fix, as you so rudely demanded, I would suggest making the ratings instead come from an open sourced and crowdsourced system. A system where everyone could give their inputs and have transparency, similar to an upvote/downvote system.

Such a system would take many hours to design and maintain, it is not something I personally am willing to contribute, nor would I ask it of any volunteers. This is why I believe the cleanest, easiest, and best solution is to simply ban the bot.

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[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The bot is only "spreading misinformation" to people who are too stupid to realise that "left" and "right" mean politically different things in different countries

Mostly the yanks

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What this bot does is analyze US media companies that you Euros would consider "centre right" and mislabels them instead as left.

This is done to shift what we Yanks call "the Overton window" to the right.

The Overton window has been shifting right for decades, which is why "left" and "right" have such a different meaning over here across the pond.

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[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Right wing in the US is conservative, Left is progressive. It's backwards compared to the UK.

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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[–] steel_nomad@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So "rightwing" information is "propaganda" and "misinformation"? Is that what youre saying?

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago

I'm saying that if you take "rightwing" information and intentionally mislabel it as "leftwing", yes that is misinformation.

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