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[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

As much as I think the cybertruck is a stupid vehicle and agree that teslas are built like shit, from what I understand this isn't an atypical amount of recalls for a new vehicle platform.

Without even paying much attention the two I know of, the gas pedal and the finger slicer are unacceptable however.

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[–] Mercuri@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Tesla ~~engineers~~ managers treating it like software. "Ship it and we can patch it in production."

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

One of these days, an engineer, the best and the brightest of us, will invent a way for it to be technically impossible to fix in production. They will be a hero, and save hundreds of companies from bad decisions, and they will never become famous or wealthy for it.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You know it's never the engineers and always the managers even with software, right?

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

always the managers even with software

You know, I want this to be 100% true, but it's not.

I've been in software development for over a decade and while the managers are definitely high up there on the list of causing problems, I've also worked with enough shitty developers that don't care enough. Then not everyone provides the same level of code review, some people are pretty bad at it and just rubber stamp things, and then a problem gets through.

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[–] Mercuri@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ah you speak the truth. Fixed.

[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

My new Hyundai did this, sorta, and it also had to be recalled. Shifting into reverse would immediately display the rear view camera (good) but then about 25% of the time it would flash a dialogue box on top of the display with instructions on how to operate the display (bad). You could select “Dismiss” or “Don’t Show This Again”. Selecting “Don’t show This Again” did nothing (worse). With the dialog present you could not see the rear view camera display and if you are one of many drivers with muscle memory, the car was already rolling backwards when you realize you cannot see (unacceptable).

Elon sucks and I would never buy a Tesla but just adding this as a reference point that software in cars generally sucks.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At least your Hyundai had a working rearview mirror so you had another way to see behind you.

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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 86 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (15 children)

We gotta stop calling software updates recalls. Yeah I get that it’s fun to bash on the Cybertruck but this isn’t really that interesting.

Now that sticky accelerator pedal… yikes.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

If the vehicle was sold broken and has to be fixed, it’s a recall.

[–] aard@kyu.de 140 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Recall is a legal term for the car industry which includes stuff like reporting obligations. So if the defect meets the severity level of a recall it should be called as such, even if it is 'just' a software update. Ambiguous terms for safety violations are dangerous and may cost lives.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Recall is also the plural term for a group of Cybertrucks.

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[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Rear view cameras have been federally required on passenger vehicles since module year 2018 in the US market. So yeah, regardless of the error, it's a recall because the result makes the vehicle noncompliant.

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[–] bladerunnerspider@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Yeah..... But these are multi-ton vehicles and when they crash people die. Unlike when your computer crashes.

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[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago

I’ve had software recalls for Toyotas and Hondas, both of which involved physical recall paperwork and required me to visit a dealer to install the new software.

Just because a software recall can be remedied over the air it doesn’t make it any less of a recall. As others have said, there’s a legal definition to a recall. They are issued by the NHTSA and require specific legal responses from the manufacturer.

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[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 80 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You know, in some ways, I appreciate Musk. He has gone out of his way to demonstrate, for all to see, how billionaire parasites get to fail upward no matter how irredeemably incompetent and vile they happen to be.

Scumwads like gates and Bezos hides it all behind walls of pr propaganda, but not Musk.

I wonder what a cyberguillotine would look like.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 31 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The Cyberguillotine is the door of the Cybertruck's trunk, which famously has no sensor to block closing it when something is in the way, and is powerful and sharp enough to cut fingers.

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 19 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It can sense when something's blocking it from closing all the way. It was just foolishly programmed to only pop back open a few times. Think it was the third or fourth was where it went into guillotine mode.

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[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (16 children)

You can tell Elon is a genius because he gets people to pay to do prototype testing for him.

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[–] Jagothaciv@kbin.earth 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What’s funny to me is there is nothing new in it. It’s trumped up garbage. It still has a chassis and 4 wheels. Nothing new. It’s stuffed with old tech that doesn’t work. These losers are guinea pigs and probably get scammed annually.

[–] red@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Steer by wire is pretty much the only cool thing. It exists elsewhere sure, but not in vehicles of this size

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[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just dropping a link to the relevant, most recent upload from Some More News aka Cody's Showdy. TL;DW: the cyber truck is an oversized, overpriced, unreliable, terrible design that's dangerous to everybody in and around it.

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[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Tesla? Making shoddy vehicles?

shockedpicachu.jpeg

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