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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

Yeah and?

Israel invaded their country and is committing genocide. It should come to no one’s surprise that Israel fucks around and finds out during a war they started.

[–] rdri@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

a war they started.

There are chances the outcome would be different if hamas released hostages, or didn't attack Israel on October 7th. Those things were not smart. It didn't serve any good purpose. A smarter thing would have been to prepare for such an attack from Israel by building defenses to protect civilians at the very least.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

No there are not, this has been ongoing for decades and decades. Things would not have magically improved, it would have continued to be a slow death sentence whilst the world ignored it.

What Hamas did, no matter how tragic, has done more to bring light and international support to the plight of the Palestinian peoples and exposed Israel as the monster it is than anything else ever has.

[–] rdri@lemmy.world 2 points 59 minutes ago (1 children)

That didn't worth it in my opinion. The level of international support is nowhere enough. And again, they could build defenses to decrease the number of victims.

Also the premise of "Israel is a monster" sentiment is hugely weakened by the monstrosity of the October attack itself.

[–] DonjonMaester@lemmy.world 1 points 47 minutes ago (1 children)

No it's not. More than one side can be monstrous in a conflict. "Yeah well but they did X so it's okay that we did Y" is bible level reasoning aka no reasoning and pretty much what is causing the whole thing anyway.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 points 6 minutes ago

More than one side can be monstrous in a conflict.

I agree, which is why I don't support any monstrous regimes 🤷

You don't have to pick a side, it's a moral trap and being super loud about having an opinion doesn't stop the bloodshed or justify any of it.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 points 8 minutes ago

Just wondering, when do you think this war started?