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I dont have any nitendo emulations but i guess this tells me i should collect some and save em on a harddrive just in case i ever need it.
Software preservation is a nobel act after all.
Inventing dynamite is also a Nobel act.
Or giving yourself ulcers
I immediately sought out working backups of both Yuzu and Ryujinx. The "bright side" of this situation is that it pissed me off enough to go acquire both the new Zelda game that potentially caused this whole situation by being leaked early, and the game that was at the absolute top of my to-play list: Unicorn Overlord. So far it is looking like a fantastic game.
For anyone curious, Echoes is definitely playable on steam deck
Is the new one better than Tears of the Kingdom?
I like it more, but I'm a fan of the more classic Zeldas. It's good, but it's marred by the same technical issues that plagued the LA remake, and the lack of some basic QoL features like a Quick Select or Favorites wheel is bringing it from 'great' to 'good.'
Looks like the github is still up if you're willing to build yourself
This reads a lot like Nintendo just paid the dev to take it all down.
literally what happened
Sauce?
The article being posted...
It says nothing of the sort.
That's not the developer, that's a Discord mod, and they said in that message specifically that they haven't heard anything from the dev. It also says nothing about what "the agreement" is. It could very well be a legal settlement.
He is a developer (github) and in fact had a pull request merged in August. I suppose it's possible it was a "legal agreement". It seems implied that it wasn't, and that was what I remembered when replying
It seems implied that it wasn't
Yes that's what I said. What you said is that it was "literally what happened" which led me to believe you had some sort of proof.
Sounds like this was more of a bribe than any legal case against the emulator. In which case nothing is stopping anyone from putting a fork back up, and gdkchan gets to laugh all the way to the bank.
I'm thinking less bribe and "laughing away to the bank" and more of a "Nintendo threatened to ruin their life with legal fees if it wasn't taken down". The frivolity of said case is irrelevant when they just bully normal people legally like that.
a "reverse bribe", as is typical of nintendo
Dev is in Brazil. They knew they had no chance of a takedown
Problem is ....is that Nintendo may have "purchased" the code so anyone making or publishing forks would be in breach of "copyright"
Ryujinx was released as open source under the MIT license. They can't retroactively rescind that license.
Lol it's like Nintendo just wants to back itself into a corner and waste away with its IP. Jeez. I honestly have no desire to purchase anything from them anymore.
I still emulate a solid amount of their games I've had for most of my life because I don't want to wear down my old hardware.
They haven't gotten a cent out of me since the GameCube, though, so I understand I'm probably not going to be their target audience anymore.
Edit: Mobile, *its not "it's"
Lol it's like Nintendo just wants to back itself into a corner and waste away with its IP.
This is a Switch emulator, meaning these are games that are still available for sale. It's not like taking down a SNES emulator or something Nintendo hasn't made available for 30+ years, it's involving games they're selling today. Taking down an emulator is literally Nintendo protecting its IP.
I honestly have no desire to purchase anything from them anymore.
If you were using this emulator, you weren't likely purchasing anything from them in the first place. And I'm no doctor, but... I'd have to imagine that's likely the reason Nintendo took this down to begin with.
While I don't support pirating products that are currently for sale, I do think it's essential that emulators like Ryujinx are developed now in order to preserve titles for later. Some Switch software already has been delisted, and someday eventually all of it will be.
While I don't support pirating products that are currently for sale
I do when Nintendo refuses to make them available on other (higher quality) hardware and also treats their paying consumers and fans like scum. I can boot up Doom on any of a dozen different computers 30 years later and play to my heart's content but that's not an option for Nintendo. Piracy generally is completely justified by a vast array of anti-consumer bullshit. If they can't make games without resorting to that bullshit, fuck 'em. I hope they go under.
The delisting is what gets me most (and we're dealing with that in basically every media catalogue from film/tv to games).
Well, that and the blatant cash grabs I see with rereleases that end up being console specific and basically unsupported like with the cases of the Wii store and basically every iteration of their online stores since.
I played Wii and eventually Wii U with buddies for smash but am glad I didn't own the systems. I know one of my friends gave a lot of money to Nintendo multiple times getting classics like Pokemon Snap and other nostalgia buys on multiple systems.
My most recent experience with Nintendo was borrowing a buddy's switch to play Breath of the Wild back around when it came out. I'm pretty meh on their new content and by the way a lot of their recent releases were received, I'm not super interested. Might bug someone to play the Pokemon Arceus one which seems kinda cool, but that would be the extent of my interest and it's not really nagging at me, anyway.
My main gripe is that they seem to be doing the bare minimum with their IP (with little innovation in the field/botched releases) and wasting money/resources on what I see as frivolous, shortsighted, lawsuits in the name of protecting their property as well as corporate heavy production that ends up with forgettable and formulaic games.
Maybe I am now become old, but I don't care to see the most recent iteration of the Pokemon, Zelda, Mario, or Smash Bros sagas and am perfectly content with replaying N64 to GameCube classics in those series. Probably doesn't help that I went to college with a bunch of friends who hung out and played Project M with some Halo 3 or Reach sprinkled in for variety lol.
If you were using this emulator, you weren’t likely purchasing anything from them in the first place. And I’m no doctor, but… I’d have to imagine that’s likely the reason Nintendo took this down to begin with.
Actually...I own a Switch and paid full price for TOTK on launch week. But playing the game in 30fps chunky resolution was very painful for me, as i've gotten quite used to 60fps+ over the last few years with 3D games. I almost put the game down in the first hour or so, playing the game was literally making my eyes hurt. That's when i went poking into the Switch emulation scene and set up yuzu (RIP). Within a few hours i was playing TOTK at 60fps 1440p and it was mostly glitch free. I put another 20 hours into the game before putting that down. But it was a glorious 20 hours, as that game is absolutely beautiful when you can wipe away the greasy look of 30fps low-res Switch graphics.
So...I am a Nintendo customer that was getting a better experience out of my purchased Nintendo game by emulating it. I know that isn't everyone in this scene - I see the reddit posts everyday for the past week about people playing leaked Echoes* of Wisdom. I get why that shit would piss Nintendo off. It just sucks that now, others can't share the amazing experience I had with TOTK.
I getcha, just have not been stoked about Nintendo's continual deathmarch against the hydra of emulation.
I honestly think it's more of a waste of money than it's actually worth and the publicity of taking down emulation sites is pretty bad for them (especially when they take down ones which deal with largely abandonware or really old games, like Vimm's lair did).
Without getting into the debate over the ethics of piracy or anti consumer practices, jumping into the fray by aggressively litigating and making a splash like Nintendo and Sony seem to focus on likely hurts their bottom line and certainly hurts their reputation with consumers.
It's funny, I own a switch and I would have bought the game (and I probably will still if the technical and QoL issues get resolved) but I'm emulating it better than the hardware can run it right now.
No one hates Nintendo players more than Nintendo
Lol it’s like Nintendo just wants to back itself into a corner and waste away with its IP. Jeez. I honestly have no desire to purchase anything from them anymore.
pretty sure the only reason nintendo cared is because ryujinx was prominently displayed in the leaked footage of echos of wisdom, pre launch
Nintendo's been way too busy in this scene for too long a time for that to be the only reason. I can see that such a leak wouldn't help, but they've been pouring money into these cases for years and have really ramped it up in the last five or so
The lesson here is to download every single working nintendo emulator as a backup and share it with your friends. Emulation is legal after all even if the Nintendo mafia try to shut it down.
I wonder if Cemu is next...
It's a fair question, but honestly I think Nintendo generally focuses on emulators that they perceive as affecting their current or near-future income. The Wii U is fully dead to Nintendo, at least for the moment.
They'll probably use one of these emulators in the future to emulate switch games on the switch 2.
but without any of the cool fps unlocker or upscaler mods
I doubt that the Switch 2 needs emulation as it's very likely to be the successor to the Tegra X1
Shiiiiiit. Now I'm really regretting not finishing TOTK on my PC back when I had that set up.
Last version is 1.1.1403, I'm sure you can find it some where still