Alas, it seems there are no winners anymore. Just sides. I don't suspect this will end well for Iran in the long term.
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I'm on the side that doesn't kill anyone.
I don't think there is one of those in this conflict.
Exactly my point.
Too controversial for reddit lol
But who do you blame?
The people that kill other people. They shouldn't do that.
Where did you learn this galaxy-brained level state craft?
Here, of course.
Would you have either side capitulate? Would you come to the aid of a side that was attacked? When would you begin intervening?
Why don't you just make your point? I made mine and it's killing is wrong.
So, Warsaw ghetto uprising during WW2 when subjugated poles rose up and began killing their nazi prison guards. You would call this a both sides is wrong situation?
And if not, I see no reason for you not to consider the palastinians with the same ideals as that of the poles.
And if so, I respect your pacifism.
My point is you're being deliberately naive and if you thought for more than 2 seconds you'd find yourself supporting interventionism.
Great fantasy world you live in.
So if somebody does kill someone, we should not hold them accountable?
Or the victims should not seek justice, should not retaliate? Should wait for someone else to seek justice for them? When would you find yourself willing to intervene?
You don't support yourself or come off as rational, and can only plug your ears, bury your head in the sand and ignore the world we live in.
My point is you're ignorant or lying in bad faith.
Whoa, chill out. If you think I'm wrong for saying killing people is wrong, you need help. You could slice me limb from limb, but you can't stop violence with more violence.
If violence worked, why has this area been warring for so long?
Remind me how they stopped Hitler.
Good job Israel, you've really managed to piss off everyone in the region.
Just another excuse for Isreal to bomb kids
I mean... that happened in the late 40s but especially peaked in the 60s.
especially peaked in the 60s
...so far.
@catloaf@lemm.ee Yeah, because before 7th of October IRGC and Israel had perfect relationship
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Am I the only one who thinks of this as a political play between Israel and Iran?
When Israel hits a target, I don't hear about it till I see the damages and the casualties.
When Iran tries to hit a target, I hear about it several hours when it's in the air and it still did not hit anything, and the next day I hear that every country around Israel had shot some of the missiles fired, and Israel themselves shot down the rest.
It feels like Iran just wants to demonstrate that they have the expertise to shoot missiles, without actually shooting anything that can cause a real damage.
If they have fired hundreds of missiles, it's clearly an attempt to overwhelm Israeli air defense.
Of course assuming the reporting we receive is true.
According to this article:
(They reference IDF, so they might be wrong, but assuming they are correct)
Iran shot 180 missiles, and Israel intercepted most of them.
So far, there is official information about two injured citizens in Tel Aviv.
I don't think this attack was significant in any means.
180 missiles is A LOT. It takes a very strong air defense to resist that.
It's bigger than the biggest Russian missile attack on Ukraine! Where an attack by Russia with 158 missiles and drones combined caused 31 dead:
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-launches-massive-air-attack-ukraine-least-10-dead-kyiv-2023-12-29/
31 dead and drones are way easier to shoot down than missiles.
This looks to me like a very serious attempt by Iran to penetrate Israeli air defenses.
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