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[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 45 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

The measure, aimed at reducing potential risks created by AI, would have required companies to test their models and publicly disclose their safety protocols to prevent the models from being manipulated to, for example, wipe out the state’s electric grid or help build chemical weapons.

How exactly do LLMs do that? If you've given an LLM's pseudorandom output control over your electrical grid, no regulation will mitigate your stupidity.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I think it's more about asking it the steps to create a bomb or how to disrupt the grid, for example, where to cut the major edges.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 13 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

asking it the steps to create a bomb

That sounds like a self-correcting issue right there

[–] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Still a public safety issue.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Is it more of a public safety issue than if they actually build a working one from a legit bomb manual and deploy it?

[–] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

No, but I think it could make the knowledge more easily available which increases the risk that it may happen.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 minutes ago

I see you've never heard of the Anarchist's Cookbook

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago

That, and the Internet has been teaching people how to create bombs since the dial-up days. I don't predict that LLM's will be either a benefit or a detriment to that particular strain of natural selection.

How exactly do LLMs do that?

Too many people are confused and think a LLM is an actual AI, and not just a tarted up ELIZA bot from 1968.

[–] bamfic@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

Could he understand the halting problem? I doubt he does, but the legislators evidently don't either

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

How exactly do LLMs do that?

If you hook an LLM up as an interface replacement for a manual/analog Power Plant interface and start asking the translator to intuit decisions based on fuzzy inputs, you can create a cascade of errors that result in grid failure.

If you’ve given an LLM’s pseudorandom output control over your electrical grid, no regulation will mitigate your stupidity.

This rule would prevent a business or public regulator from doing such a thing without proving out safeguards.

And the governor vetoed it.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 31 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Good.

All this bill would have done is given OpenAI/Anthropic and such an effective monopoly (and probably destroy the planet with their insane scaling schemes) by destroying the open model ecosystem. I think fediverse vs. corporate social media is a good analogy, and this is kinda like sniping the Fediverse because it's "too dangerous" if it gets too big, without actually being specific on how to deal with that, but actually sniping it because its a competitive threat.

And yes, OpenAI opposed this, but that was lip service. Don't believe a word that comes out of Altman's mouth.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 21 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Newsom on Sunday instead announced that the state will partner with several industry experts, including AI pioneer Fei-Fei Li, to develop guardrails around powerful AI models.

That’s reassuring—Li is one of the best-qualified people for the role, and she isn’t in the pocket of any of the major players.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 9 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Trying to do the same thing in EU I guess. It's funny how the tech giants are mad at it and not releasing their latest energy black hole data pumps in EU. It's like cocaine gangs threatening us to not sell in our countries if we don't change the laws. No, thanks.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Nancy Pelosi, argued that the bill would “kill California tech” and stifle innovation.

As long as the critics of a safety regulation need nothing better than such stupid, short-sighted arguments, nobody will ever be safe.