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In his final address to the UN General Assembly as the U.S. president on Tuesday, Biden boasted about working for peace and deescalation through his administration, walking through historic conflicts that he claimed he opposed.

He struck an almost anti-war tone as he bragged about withdrawing troops from Afghanistan and, ironically, opposing South African apartheid in his younger years. He also spoke extensively about the U.S.’s use of the UN charter to support Ukraine and the need for global powers to end Russia’s invasion. He then called for world order, saying that “the center has held” and that global chaos has been averted, referencing a famous William Butler Yeats poem.

But Biden suspended his dovish talk when he spoke about the Middle East and Israel’s massacres — for which the U.S. has undermined humanitarian standards at every turn. While Biden dubiously claimed that his administration is working steadfastly to achieve peace in the Middle East, he invoked the October 7 attack led by Hamas forces — which officials have raised repeatedly in the past year to provide justification for Israel’s genocide.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago (4 children)

He then called for world order, saying that “the center has held” and that global chaos has been averted, referencing a famous William Butler Yeats poem.

"Global chaos has been averted"

The war in Ukraine is ongoing.

Israel is committing genocide in Gaza and revving up the West Bank.

Israel is about to invade a neighboring sovereign state.

Taiwan is threatened by the PRC.

Fucking nothing has been averted. I understand politicians seek to spin events in favor of their policies, but fuck's sake. This is, to be very generous on the Israel front, like a flood busting a dam down, and then driving to the remains of the crushed city downstream and praising the preventative powers of the dam.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The civil war in Sudan

The civil war in Myanmar

The potential of a genocide going full swing in northern India

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Was trying to keep it limited to situations we're already deeply involved in, but yeah, there's... a lot going on.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Sudan limping into the conversation

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Go ask ChatGPT which nations are in OPEC. Some (or their regions) are listed (as unstable) in this thread.

They compete with Western Oil interests.

That is why these regions (africa and the middle east) are destabilized, that is that status quo, has been for decades. That's the point, that's normalcy for US hegemony (and western oil interests).

As for the other two issues you raised. Ukraine and Taiwan... Taiwan is never going to happen for a multitude of reasons, that's just saber rattling. Always has been (hence why it hasn't been attempted, even Mao knew it couldn't be done).

Ukraine is serving it's own survival and damaging Putin and the Russian economy in the process - there's no real risk for America there, only a reward.

So all of this is why we have the major wars and current state of the world. Most of it represents "the center holding" as Biden put it. It makes sense if you understand the players and geopolitics.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Now if all nations became energy independent, and/or green energy reliant, then you'd see these counter-OPEC wars slowing down and halting.... And the oil would be worth less, and those OPEC nations would no longer be perceived as a threat to Western Oil interests.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
  • Philippines threatened by the PRC.
[–] MaDMaX99@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

China threatened by usa

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Biden is literally being taken advantage of by Israel at this point due to his age, or he's flat out lying to everyone about what he thinks is happening.

Like, his continually denial of reality at this point doesn't have any other explanation

He believes it and age isn't just why he couldn't be the candidate, it's why he shouldn't be president right now.

Or he knows that when people criticize him, people and the media will label them trump supporters for having standards higher than "not trump". Which I'll never understand but still happens online often.

Either way, Biden is faciliting a genocide.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thi sound like giving him an excuse. He is a proud zionist by his own words.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

He is and he's been saying it for half a century...

But to truly believe Israel is the good guys working towards peace in 2024 is completely illogical and in direct opposition to every piece of intelligence that isn't coming from Israel.

And he does seem to truly believe it, I don't think he's just lying to everyone. It's no different than an elderly relative going hard trump, he's being taken advantage of by a foreign government.

It's not an excuse, and it's definitely not a reason to let him keep doing this shit, but it's important to understand why people do horrible shit like support a genocide.

Just write him off as a horrible monster and it's hard to prevent it from happening again. That's a big part of why we're still fighting fascists all over the planet. It's not enough to say they're monsters, we need to understand the why so we can stop it from happening again

[–] Frog@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Are you still using his age as an excuse? He doesn't care about Palestine enough to break relations with Israel. That's it.

There's a lot that the US gain by not going against Israel, mostly their intelligence and technology.

Israel has the biggest intelligence network in the Middle East.

Also the biggest companies that fund Democrats either have a company division is Israel or support companies in Israel.

If Biden was 45, he would still make the same decisions.

I wonder actually if we're overstating the influence Biden is having. Think of all the recent gaffe's he's made. I suspect policy is in the hands of the appointed cabinet members. In which case, having Blinken on may have done a lot of unnecessary damage...

It's not the second. From his remarks it's pretty clear he understands exactly what's happening.

War is Peace, Genocide is defense, and colonization is progress. Just don't ask about all those brown kids.