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[–] assembly@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That statement is pretty tone deaf. They aren’t spoiled, they are fighting to survive and defending the eastern EU border.

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Zelensky's response showed Wallace to be a fool, and did a good job of reminding the audience that his country was fighting for survival while Wallace was paying some some shitty game.

The entire response was :

"It seems to me we have always been very grateful to the United Kingdom, always grateful to the Prime Minister and the Defence Secretary, Mr Wallace…

I just do not know what he means, how else we are supposed to express our gratitude. He can text me to explain it… We can wake up every morning and personally thank the minister.

The UK is our partner, we are grateful to it, maybe the minister wants something specific… But I think we have a good relationship.

We are grateful to the people. After all, strong support from the people influences the support from any state’s leadership."

Zelenskyy also turned to Oleksii Reznikov, Ukraine’s Minister of Defence, who was in the audience. "Oleksii, are you on bad terms with the UK Defence Secretary? You get along perfectly? Then thank him. Call him today."

Reznikov stood up and said thank you to Wallace.

[–] TheRealLDRMS@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I agree with you, but from reading the article he did say “I didn’t drive 11 hours to be given a list”. So it sounds like he said it out of agitation, albeit not professional. I kind of understand where he was coming from, the dudes ass and legs were probably so crapped and didn’t expect to be handed a laundry list. Lol!!

[–] Spacebar@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Perhaps if the UK conservatives didn't mess up their country so badly with Brexit and privatization, they wouldn't be so concerned about paying for another country to stop Russia's imperial expansion.

[–] blendedracer@aussie.zone 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They (UK) are also not meeting their obligations under the Budapest 1994 agreement. In that US and UK (and ironically Ruzzia) agreed to have “boots on the ground” to defend Ukraine!

[–] kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well sure, if Ukraine and those countries care to start WW3 by acting upon it.

[–] fist_of_fartitude@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We should definitely allow Russia to do anything they want because WWIII. Caving to their imperialist program is obviously the only way and can't possibly backfire on us, ever. It definitely won't send a message to other countries to use the same threats to get what they want.

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[–] kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What? Nuclear retaliation is the threat. It's a legitimate one. Plus, after NATO scrubs Russia and its allies off the map, who takes over their country or nuclear arsenal?

[–] dudebro@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I stopped listening to people who said we shouldn't fight back because the enemy may retaliate.

That's not how wars are won.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

and it's abusive behavior. "Don't fight back, or I will hurt you even more!"

[–] kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

In a post nuclear society? Seems really naive.

[–] Ignacio@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"We're not Amazon", said the country that during the Second World War was begging for help to United States so they could stop Hitler.

Stop acting like the spoiled child of Europe and start helping a country that is fighting for its existence.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Start helping? I dunno what to tell you if you think the UK hasn't done anything to help Ukraine.

[–] Ignacio@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, I noticed that my wording was not entirely correct.

[–] Richie030@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Read the article, he was not referencing the UK, he was advising them how to get more backing from western countries.

[–] Ignacio@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Fucking clickbait headlines. I'm tired of them.

[–] md5crypto@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Ben Wallace is a piece of SHIT.

[–] Jikiya@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

It is a bit demoralizing, as a human, to see leaders in the free world doing this. I don't think I know of a time the Ukrainians have been ungrateful. I know they've been impatient, but that happens when you see children dying from the army that's invading. NATO weapons are finally being used in the purpose they were manufactured for, defeating the Russian army.

Send the clerks to make sure the weapons aren't being diverted, and let them fight for their lives.

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