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[–] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 305 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Organization seeks 'immediate arrest' of Trump and Vance over Springfield hoax

Fixed the title. I read nothing to suggest that Trump or Vance are currently in any danger of being arrested in Springfield, Ohio.

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 84 points 1 month ago

Yeah, they do not "face immediate arrest" there have been calls to arrest them, but they face nothing.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 143 points 1 month ago (19 children)

I'm beginning to think RawStory exaggerates their headlines for clicks. An organization has asked a court to arrest them, a FAR cry from facing immediate arrest.

[–] bastion@feddit.nl 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

RawStory faces immediate arrest for spreading disinformation and falsely representing ongoing legal situations!

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[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 81 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

"There's nothing special about Trump and Vance that entitles them to get away with what they've done and are doing," the attorney added. "They think they're above the law. They're not."

Except for the Senate Republicans who would not hold their own accountable for crimes they committed or the federal supreme Court Justice feeding Trump's attorney legal advice to use in the lower courts. And the billions in PAC funds and trinket grifts used to campaign for politicians and appoint judges who are loyal to them above the Constitution and citizens. And anything Trump did as president is legal if he says it was part of the job. Except for those facts sure they're just like you or me in the eyes of the law.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 54 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, you can't even pretend that Trump isn't above the law when the Supreme Court has literally ruled that he is at their discretion.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Technically the ruling was for ~~crimes~~ official acts he committed while in office.

He's no longer president and holds no privilege, except being the Republican nominatee for President. Which apparently is a protected class.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 80 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tempted to remove as "Fox by Proxy" but here's an alternate source which confirms the story and raises an excellent point:

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/25/g-s1-24436/haitian-group-charges-trump-vance-springfield

“If it were anyone else other than Trump and Vance who had done what they’ve done — wreak havoc on Springfield, resulting in bomb threats, evacuated and closed government buildings and schools, threats to the mayor and his family — they would have been arrested by now,” Chandra said. “They are not above the law.”

Chandra said the U.S. Supreme Court's July ruling granting ex-presidents broad immunity from criminal prosecution does not apply in this case because Trump is currently a private citizen and Vance was not acting in his capacity as a senator when he amplified the rumors that members of Springfield’s 15,000-member Haitian community were eating people’s pets.

[–] nailbar@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

"If it were anyone else ... they would have been arrested by now,” Chandra said. “They are not above the law.”

Those two sentences don't add up.

[–] rockhstrongo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah. "They shouldn't be above the law." works better.

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[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 77 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So this is the real reason why Trump cancelled his Springfield visit.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 63 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Trump's scared that Vance's family will eat Laura Loomer

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don’t understand. Is Laura Loomer a brand of couch I haven’t heard of?

[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Yes. Please don’t research Laura Loomer any further

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think she'd have more to be worried about with Robert Kennedy around talking to Trump. Trump is so easy to control and that dude needs help.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 63 points 1 month ago (11 children)

"i'm still voting for trump!"

--this fucking guy

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Sonos DeWine, that shady fuck.

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[–] spiffs@sh.itjust.works 54 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think it would be pretty hilarious if this was the thing that got Trump in jail. Aaaaaall the other stuff? Nah. but this Springfield hoax? Yeah we got to do something about that.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Al Capone got put away for Tax Evasion, so anything is possible I guess.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If only the IRS had the teeth now as it did then, we'd never heard about this trump fellow.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

We probably would have heard about him going to prison in the 80s.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Silly billies. Don't they know that the law doesn't apply to rich people?

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[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 1 month ago
[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago

Good on them for trying.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

As fucking if lmao

[–] abracaDavid@lemmy.today 27 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Trump isn't ever going to actually go to jail. That would set a precedent for us to actually keep our political leaders accountable, and that ain't happening.

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[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well that's one way to keep them out of your city while campaigning. Can we do that here in MI? I'm sick of them being here every week.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Have an immigrant file a suit for libel (or slander...I forgot which is which. Hell, both).

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I'll believe it when I see it.

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[–] echo@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

In case anybody doesn’t feel like disabling their ad blocker, here’s a bypass link: https://12ft.io/https://www.rawstory.com/trump-vance-criminal-charges/

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[–] CaptainKickass@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm positive that they'll be arrested and face justice 🤦🏽

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

@just_another_person@lemmy.world Looks like Rawstory heard the complaints and modified the headline on you.

The new headline is "Trump and Vance face criminal charges over Springfield hoax"

If you could make this match, that would be great!

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I'm sure that will work. "ONE SIMPLE TRICK THE REPUBLICANS DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT."

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