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[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 65 points 1 month ago

Slave labor.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Neat, the two things I’ve wanted to abolish since I was a teen are teaming up.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Slavery and Alabama?

[–] MTK@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Criminals and inmates?

[–] rhacer@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Fucking abhorrent behavior from the State.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] rhacer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

I'm surprised I was able to guess that.

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In the Nov election California is going to vote on a bill to end involuntary work for prisoners

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

but who will we feed to the fire gods now

[–] yngmnwntr@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Pretty sure Oregon did something similar but like...what are these people going to do without commissary? Making it not involuntary doesn't really mean prisoners aren't forced to do it so they can have things like shower sandals so they don't get trench foot. Every con is still choosing to work for a pittance because they need it to survive in prison. But it's OK we no longer legally allow slavery.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 28 points 1 month ago

Eat. The. Rich. Open. The. Doors.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

"Wage slave"

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Anything and everything to avoid treating people decently.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Of fucking course it's Alabama. I'm staying in this state for a week right now and I gotta tell you, the south fucking SUCKS.

I just found out about the shooting yesterday. I'm going to Birmingham in just a couple days. Now I find out about this fascist bullshit?

[–] wafflez@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Unfortunately there's only one good thing about Alabama and this definitely isn't it

[–] Aaron@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm happy to report that voting from overseas is remarkably easy if you're registered in Alabama. A friend of mine had the easiest time. Meanwhile, I am jumping through hoops for Texas to let me vote.

A reminder to please vote.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Best thing I had in Alabama was my sister

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Convict leasing was the souths replacement for slavery. You could arrest a black person for anything after the civil war (that's changed right?), including for not having a job or a home. So instead of buying slaves the state created them from freed people by throwing them into prison and then leasing them back to the former slaveholders. It didn't fall out of fashion until the civil rights era. Guess the anti-civil rights era is bringing it back.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Holy fucking shit if McDonald's doesn't terminate all the involved owners' franchise agreements, they're fucking complicit.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Id be pretty surprised if McDonalds doesn't knowingly use prison slave labor somewhere in their supply chain already.

[–] tee9000@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Was going to read the article and explain why this is sensationalized but god damn they take 40% of their earnings at 7.25/hr.

Nobody works for 7.25. They should be required to pay them a competitive rate and nobody should be allowed to take a cut. It should be going towards their own betterment. You cant justify 40% wage cost for transportation to the job.

And if they blow off work for illegitimate reasons then there should never be any kind of punishment other than potential disqualification from further employment there like a normal person.

This is 100% reason enough to raise rhe minimum wage by itself. The prison system is really scary.....

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They should be required to pay them a competitive rate

If the system was properly functional without these loopholes, they'd be forced to raise their rates to attract workers. But since they have a captive workforce, they're able to not worry about it

You cant justify 40% wage cost for transportation to the job.

Oh it's better than that: not only do they take a 40% cut of their wages, they charge fees on top of that 40% for transport and washing uniforms.

[–] tee9000@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Not sure about the first item but yeah i read it wrong... they pay fees on top of 40%. Prison reform needs to be a focal political discourse right behind climate change...

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Literally everything about this is evil. Not only is it making a slave of someone who is more likely to be falsely convicted at this point (as if it's acceptable truly convicted), but they're also fucking up the job market by keeping a ready stock of "other fish in the sea who will deal with it" despite their lack of "will" in the scenario. Even ignoring all that, do you want a murderer or rapist to have anything to do with preparing your food? Jesus fucking antichrist!

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

When is it going to be okay to be violent towards the evil people without being sanctioned by my local evil organization?

This is really bad. I'm sure they make sure that the inmates are not dangerous and have a good history of following the rules etc before putting them here.

The reason why inmates don't have to make minimum wage and can't refuse to work is that the work they do in prison is supposed to be part of the justice, after being decided on with due process.

The work they should be assigned is meant to help reform them and get them ready to reintegrate back into society.

But - what due process was used to assign them the torturous work that's a modern USA fast food restaurant? There's literally no benefit at all to the inmate in this situation. How does it make sense to abuse criminal justice loopholes to enrichen some of the world's largest megacorps?