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Feds target SUV, truck size to save pedestrian lives — ‘one of the last frontiers of vehicle safety’ (chicago.suntimes.com)

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[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Saw a lady driving a truck which its hood was taller than my veloster and all I saw was knuckles. This old lady probably couldn't even see the road.
Fuck these people and fuck the companies that make em

Large trucks like that should be like transports. Ya should have to take a special license course to even be able to own to prove you can drive it. 90% of truck owners can't so they own the biggest POS to ensure their safety at everyone's else's safety.

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[–] zeekaran@sopuli.xyz 30 points 3 days ago

Every time I see a movie from the 90s and older, and they show a parking lot, I get sad. Everyone used to drive reasonably sized sedans. Family vehicles were wagons. Fuck SUVs and trucks.

[–] Fuzzy_Red_Panda@lemm.ee 33 points 3 days ago (5 children)

For the first time ever, manufacturers would be required to study the impact of test dummies hit outside of vehicles. The rules would likely change the design of what America drives permanently.

That's all the article says about the actual rule changes. Based on this information alone, I know very little about what will actually change.

I feel like the NHTSA should do way more if they can and argue for limits on light truck sizes in their length, height, weight, and perhaps classification.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Well, for one thing, an M1 Abrams main battle tank has better front sightlines than most trucks on the road today.

And it isn't even that much more dangerous to get hit by because of the giant flat-face front impact planes of the trucks. Used to be if you got hit by a car it would roll you up over the hood, now you just die.

I have to imagine that will impact the testing and design at least somewhat.

Edit: fixed the image link

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[–] grudan@programming.dev 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The other thing it mentioned was the “head-to-hood” test. AFAIK car manufacturers are only required to meet the collision safety requirements for collisions involving the same class of vehicle. Vehicles in different classes are not made to impact with each other, making, for instance, a sedan to pickup truck collision much more dangerous for the sedan driver. The only way they can still meet those safety requirements is to make the front of the SUVs and trucks much much smaller and probably lower.

Edit: I was thinking of the AP article about this.

[–] USSMojave@startrek.website 7 points 3 days ago

For the first time ever, manufacturers would be required to study the impact of test dummies hit outside of vehicles

But that will reveal a LOT of corroborating information for what we know, which is how dangerous they are. It's a good thing to have more data

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

"MUH FREEDOM. FUCKIN COMMIES"

I can just see the pavement princess brigade seething because their next emotional support penismobile won't be exaggerated anymore and they will actually be able to see pedestrians and cyclists.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I have a Honda Fit (compact 4 seater) and absolutely LOVE the little car, plus it's easier to park. But holy shit looking for a compact is hard! Everything is a fucking SUV or truck these days! Just count the number of sedans vs SUVs next time you're out and about. My favorite cars, the 2 door Mini Cooper and VW Buggy, aren't even made any more.

[–] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Even the small cars have been progressively getting bigger over time, it's horrible

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[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There should really be a redistribution gas tax, another dollar per gallon on gas which then goes back split evenly to every American. Incentivizes less gas usage while avoiding the regressive nature of a sales tax. Canada has something like this.

Ruinous politically so it would never happen but it would be a good plan.

[–] Grappling7155@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

It’s the carbon tax and carbon rebate in Canada. When paired with a carbon tariff, it’s a great market friendly solution to reduce emissions. Beware though, it really really triggers regressive petrosexual conservatives and the ones in Canada keep trying to trigger an election over it so they can get rid of it ASAP and pollute more.

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[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 4 days ago (20 children)

Humans have quite literally invented cars that are better at killing people, especially children.

"I don't want children to die in accidents," say people as they drive huge masses of metal that might do just that.

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[–] aloeTGL@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It’s like a negative feedback loop I want an SUV because of a truck or another SUV hit me. I feel like I might be able to survive that but if I’m in my geometro, or a small compact car. I don’t think I’m coming out of that alive if a giant trucker or suv hit me And I know that’s not gonna change. They’re not gonna suddenly recall thousands of oversized pick up trucks those trucks are gonna be on the road for the next 10 to 15 years to come, even if something changes soon. It would take a while to phase them out.

I just want public high-speed rail everywhere 15 minutes cities please

[–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago

So the US just starts importing the cars europe had for ages? thats hardly a frontier, it's willful ignorance of an age old issue.

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