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Need at least the camera, if not that plus a microphone and speakers, not the lock or bell.

Libre Software (Obviously) + End-to-End Encryption

Small and easy to hide, so the camera isn't stolen, attacked or bypassed.

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[–] 0x0@programming.dev 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Unpopular opinion: an actual doorbell.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

That won't record attackers.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

Add (offline, regular) camera.

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

add a vandal proof camera on top

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Ops. Missed the actual details. Sorry. How small you want it to be? Any dimentions?

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No specific measurements.

https://www.wyze.com/products/wyze-cam-pan

Something like this which has a privacy mode where it rotates and hides could be good.

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Vandal proof camera is easy to find, but with privacy mode? I don't think such product exist yet.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I literally just linked an example.

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That's not vandal proof. What I mean by vandal proof is IK rated, like IK10.

Best I can find is https://www.hikvision.com/en/products/IP-Products/PTZ-Cameras/Value-Series/ds-2de2a404iw-de3-w-s6-/

You will have to set the camera pointing default to a non sensitive area, likely ground if you mount it directly above your doorbell, and only tilt up when it get some event triggers like motion (feet), audio (it does have a mic), doorbell (via home assistant), other cameras (mition alerts), or something else.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I see, thank you!

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I can't remotely see if an important package was delivered with a regular doorbell.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If that is a big problem, one alternative is to get a post office box.

[–] yonder@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

That's seems like a good idea, considering the plethora of videos online of packages being stolen with an obvious camera watching the thieves.

[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I also can't see who took my package with a regular doorbell. But apparently having security cameras on your property is dystopian surveillance.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Having security cameras that malicious businesses sell so they can scrape your data and share video with the police without your informed consent is a dystopian nightmare.

Having your own security system that is only accessed by you and those you intentionally share it with is not.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

I think that is the normal choice

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You want Reolink + Frigate

[–] Maestro@fedia.io 5 points 1 week ago

Yes, I have this too. Works fine.

[–] BRINGit34@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 week ago

I can stand behind reolink. Quality products at really good prices.

I have personally installed their cameras for multiple people and never really have issues out of them.

And check with your local telephone co-op and see if they will hook you up with free ethernet cable. All you need then is a crimper and some ends.

Love these cameras

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Cameras seem too big and obvious, easy to attack.

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They have a doorbell: https://reolink.com/__/product/reolink-video-doorbell/

It doesn't really get smaller than that.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Oh, I see, thank you!

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can use a Wyze Video Doorbell 1 and flash it with thingino firmware. Then hook it up to a Frigate home surveillance server.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yes, looks good, thank you!

Will that run on a Pi? Can it shut off when I'm at home?

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Frigate can definitely run on a Pi. It can also integrate with Home Assistant which can run on a Pi. As for turning itself off when you're home, I don't know.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Best answer, thanks again!

You're welcome. I'm glad I could help out

[–] SecurityPro@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I use Eufy doorbells, locks, and cameras. I realize they are a Chinese company, but that is almost unavoidable until the US gets back to actually manufacturing tech.

The reason I like Eufy is the local storage and no required subscription fees.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago

Isn't this the company that not only got busted for uploading continuous footage but got caught publicly exposing that footage to anyone with VLC?

I if I am remembering correctly you should throw away the device immediately

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

I use eufy as well. The only issue they recently had was that thumbnails were stored in their cloud if you chose to enable them on notifications. If you just select the text option, none of the footage is stored online and everything is local.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Harder for China than the US to attack in the US.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Reolink has a local encrypted video doorbell.

[–] jeffhykin@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Here's a very similar question I asked here a few months ago: "Privacy respecting ring doorbell" https://lemm.ee/post/8165932

[–] DARbarian@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

Been hunting for the same thing for years

[–] kbal@fedia.io 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

That won't record attackers.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

It might contribute in some small aesthetic way to deterring them, which seems a much better ambition.

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