EU countries are going full on fighting privacy now.
this post was submitted on 13 Sep 2024
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Just makes me want to fight back by helping other people to use Monero, Tor, and other privacy services.
Same.
Makes me feel we are two faced. On the one hand, we are inventing laws to protect privacy of eu citizens. And then stuff like this happens. On the other hand: Just fucked up that the people who use the platform for what is was intended for are now in jeopardy for people who want to look at underage kids, get their SO killed, look at kill cams or buy drugs.
What’s a kill cam?
Kind of like the red room they tell you about on Youtube
Are you being intentionally vague?
I think they are referring to videos of people dying.
Thank you for an actual response.
GDPR only applies to big tech apparently
GDPR explicitly exempts government entities. Still, way better than not having it IMO.
Regulating governmental intrusions into privacy would take a completely separate and probably much larger bill.
Regulating governmental intrusions into privacy would take a completely separate and probably much larger bill.
It would take a revolution honestly
EU countries are going full in fighting to protect privacy right now.
Its a battle and there's people in the government in both sides. Germany has actually been one of the best Member States in the EU preventing erosion of privacy.
Governments are made up of many different people, frequently with differing goals
This is insane.
Stuff like this makes me want to run a Tor node out of spite
Totally. For now, I'm only running I2P though. But it maxes out my uplink so it's probably better this way for now.
Get a distinct line in a dedicated room.
That way when they confiscate all the equipment, it will only be the equipment used on that Tor network.
This is the official advise from the Tor project, by the way
Silly question but how would they know that that it the Tor equipment? Wouldn't the just come and take it all?
You should call the local police office ahead of time and tell them you're going to operate an exit node. Then literally label everything so that when they come in the future, they know what to take. Like I said, its best to literally have this project in its own room. Like a closet. So its very clear which equipment is used for your exit node.
Again, the Tor Project provides boilerplate letters for these things. Law enforcement usually thanks you. Remember, they use Tor too. Of course, most officers are dumb, but at least someone in their office should know about Tor at this point.
The police are stupid (how did they think they could catch any criminal by raiding an exit node operator? Did they manage to compromise TOR completely? Didn't think so), and I hope the people of the NGO are alright.
It's possible that this raid was connected to a current police operation to arrest users of a darknet child abuse website.
Even if it's not they will definitely say how it was to stop cp or drug sales no matter what the reason was. People will always look the other way if they say that.
People should be using tor just as Fuck U to the pigs.
The entire regime relies on peasants not doing anything. Gonna be a generation or two but we will hit critical mass or will be enslaved.
Your choice folks!
As annoying as it is not being able to really exit to a main internet from I2P, I think they have the right idea by not allowing exits. Though it does most definitely have an impact on how many people are able to use it.
They have exits they are just not a part of the core project. I also like how the source code is hosted on i2p
While I agree this definitely feels like more of a threat than an action, it IS worth understanding the many times that tor nodes have been compromised. Exit nodes are a well documented mess (and have many of the same vulnerabilities normal VPNs do) but eavesdropping and traffic analysis are also probabilities based upon how much of the network any given org has access to.
If that NGO was doing hinky stuff or just doing a sloppy job? Those cops might actually have a LOT of actionable data that just needs a bit of processing.
Which is why it is always important to understand what your risks and benefits from a privacy related tool are. People often think "I'll just put everything through a vpn/tor" which DRASTICALLY increases their risk profiles. But they also don't understand how tor works well enough to even know what it gives them over a traditional vpn (as opposed to "Dark Web" stuff which is a different mess).