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[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 205 points 1 month ago (3 children)

She's a great chess player but she's never been a World Champion. There's no need to embelish her story. She's currently training to become a surgeon at University of Missouri School of Medicine.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 68 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I think that's an honest mistake. She was awarded the Women's Grandmaster title and the International Master which is confusing unless you look at the standards. It's arguably a world title holder? Maybe? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorsa_Derakhshani

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Grandmaster just means you have reached a certain elo and have completed certain requirements (win a number of games, against certain opponents etc), and won a certain number of competitions. There are around 2000 current grandmasters.

World champion is much much more selective, meaning literally winning the world championship.

Don’t get me wrong, grandmaster is incredibly prestigious, but is much more “common” than world champion.

(International Master is the rank below grandmaster).

[–] havid_dume@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago

For clarification, the Women's Grandmaster and International titles are conferred after a certain level of achievement overall in one's career. There is no limit to the number of people who can have those titles. I feel like if you use a phrase like "world title holder" there's an implication that such a world title is like "champion of whatever" and is only held by one person at a time (like a "World Champion(ship title)").

[–] TaTTe@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

She holds the title International Master, so I guess OP thought that's the same as World Champion? But she's currently ranked 6365th of active players.

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Was thinking as i read this post "isnt magnus the defacto world champ? Or hasnt he been for years now?"

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ding Liren is the current human "open" world champion, but there is also a women's world championship, currently held by Ju Wenjun. Plus there is a world junior championship, world rapid championship, world blitz, etc. Magnus is probably still the world's best human player, but he decided to drop out of the WC cycle because he got tired of winning it so often, basically.

The strongest chessplaying entities in the world are entirely machines, which have surpassed humans by enormous and uncrossable margins. The top engine for the past few years has been whatever the latest version of Stockfish is. The top human players spend enormous amounts of time studying machine analysis of various openings and game positions.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Ah yes, the two genders: human and woman.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Chess has always been overwhelmingly male. In the old days there were separate men's tournaments and women's tournaments. That changed in the 1980s when Susan Polgar was by far the strongest female player in Hungary. She didn't have any serious opposition in women's tournaments there, and wasn't allowed to enter men's tournaments, so she started a big fight. The result was that men's tournaments were abolished and they are now "open" tournaments that anyone can play in, though they are still overwhelmingly male. Women's events exist basically so that female players don't have to endure the gauntlet of a socially inept nerd sausage fest in order to play chess.

For a while there was also something called "centaur" tournaments, where a centaur was a human player assisted by a computer. The idea was that the computer could outcalculate humans, but humans still had better strategic judgment, so a human-computer team could outperform either member individually. After a while though, computers became strong enough that human interference just made them play worse. The current strongest chess tournament in the world is called TCEC (Top Chess Engine Championship, tcec-chess.com) and it is always running, 24/7/365 unless something happens. Some really incredible games have come out of it.

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Thats fair, thanks for explaining!

[–] sloppysol@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Funny, when I tried that I tripped.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 month ago

Sounds like a checkmate

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago
[–] eunieisthebus@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

~~Moving that pawn as an opening weakens the king.~~

[–] rxin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] eunieisthebus@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You might have noticed the other comment from yesterday already correcting me.

[–] rxin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

sorry, no, probably blocked