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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Or, you know, you could just have socialised medicine which encompasses the full health care cycle including diagnosis, monitoring, non drug treatments, tailored medical advice and preventative medicine.

But yeah I guess if that's off the table cheap drugs is cool too.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

Well, of course we could -- the fact we haven't is why it's come to this. 🫠

While i think it sounds risky, it's awesome news for anyone that can't afford proper healthcare. I'm also thinking that given 5-10 years we may see this evolve into something a lot more viable.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Cheap drugs with no quality control is not a good thing. That's exactly why so-called "health supplements" have harmed so many people.

https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2012/09/10-surprising-dangers-of-vitamins-and-supplements/index.htm

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 months ago

Very true. This is not a thing people should be having to resort to.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This is not going to end well

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Or it will, and it will make pharmaceutical companies offer cheaper prices.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, cheaper prices for their apple-flavored horse paste.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’m struggling to get the joke that I know is staring me in the face. Would you please help me out?

[–] skyler@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

During covid, there were people taking ivermectin to treat it.

Ivermectin for horses was a popular choice among these idiots.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 3 points 3 months ago

I figured that was the direction it was headed, but I had no idea they had an actual apple paste. But thinking about it, that makes a lot of sense for its intended audience (I mean horses, not republicans, haha).

Do you think the republicans spread it on toast? Does “an apple toast a day keep the libtard ‘doctor’ away?” 😁

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They'll just change the formula and tell your doctor to prescribe the new one

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 3 points 3 months ago

Well, i obviously want the one that comes with more Brawndo

[–] SteefLem@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Just like normal testing (well sort of). But from these you will hear only the failures just like from pharma companies you will only hear the hits.

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago

I know so many trans people who can't access legal health care due to years long waiting lists or very expensive inaffective private health care. In the UK it's between waiting ~4 years for health care or becoming a criminal.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Stupid.

People diagnose incorrectly a lot, will probably take incorrect amounts, and if sick will take the medicine incorrectly leading to bacteria and viruses with immunity to more drugs.

Just…let the doctors and pharmacists do the work, please? At least they have some training and understand interactions/classes of medicine.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

let the doctors and pharmacists do the work, please?

i think this is what everyone wanted here, but the system can't provide it, so they are resorting to this kind of hackery.

[–] Wooster@startrek.website 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Eeh.

While I agree with the sentiment, I think we’re in this situation because of the current medical climate.

  • You call an ambulance? You get charged an arm and a leg.

  • You take yourself to the hospital, you get charged an arm and a leg.

  • You get medical insurance, and you’re somehow even further behind because it’s their priority to find reasons to deny having to give you money back,

The current system does not work. As a consequence, people are attempting, however incompetently, to take their care into their own hands.

Fix why folks are resorting to this, and this should stop being an issue, or at least stop gaining traction.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. I know why we’re in the situation. I’m just saying that sometimes it’s still not a good idea to just give anyone autonomy for something as a fix, especially when they do not specialize in it.

[–] flicker@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Keep in mind that there are lots of people who know exactly what they need, but can't afford it.

The guy giving the presentation used the example of a pill that cures Hep C. They charge you $84,000 for the pills that will cure Hep C, but since there are cheaper meds that manage Hep C, insurance will cover only those.

By the way, making those cure pills with this system costs about $70. For the entire course of the medication.

The problem you're talking about (see a professional to get a proper diagnosis and treatment!) is perfectly valid and wise. But if I try a migraine medication, and it works, but after the trial I have to pay hundreds of dollars a pill?

Yo ho!

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Totally agree! The drug companies are fucking scum bag shit lords. Hell, I used to work in preclinical pharma testing for 11 years at a Charles River Labs company so I know what goes into a lot of this.

I just worry about someone then taking something else, or getting prescribed another med, without consulting a professional and there is a nasty interaction and now there’s an ER visit or flat out death. I don’t want people dying because they get complacent or make a mistake that could be avoided.

The solution is really holding pharma to the coals, but I live in reality where it won’t happen. So here we are. 😢

[–] Avenging5@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

he's not attacking that part of medicine. he has no quarrel with Doctors etc. it's the exhorbitent amount of money pharmcorp is charging for what can essentially be life saving medicine.