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    Reason for this meme is that some ubisoft titles are shipped with a broken version of ubisoft connect launcher. Installing these games is only possible by running the installer for the launcher again via protontricks.

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    [–] 299792458ms@lemmy.zip 199 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    ~~linux~~ gaming without 3rd party launchers.

    [–] HouseWolf@lemm.ee 46 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Funnily the first time I tried Linux on my desktop was because I wanted to play BF4 but the EA App refused to launch on Windows 10 even after restarting/reinstalling everything.

    I slapped Pop_OS on a backup SSD and got it running through Lutris within the hour.

    Origin was a fucking nightmare to use even on Windows, and honestly...the EA desktop app wasn't really an improvement.

    [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

    Origin was better in literally every way, but it's predecessor, the EA Download Manager, was even better, as it wasn't an always-online DRM piece of shit. You logged in, it listed your games, it downloaded them, and games still used a CD key.

    Though I'm still pissy, as I bought NFS Carbon and obtained it via EADM, but when they moved to Origin, existing games didn't transfer, and there was no way to grab games for archival. So EA owes me a fucking copy of Carbon, since I didn't have it installed when they sunset EADM.

    Fuck you, EA. In every conceivable sense of the word and action.

    [–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Just slap the "Linux" onto any post and immediately get more upvotes on Lemmy.

    [–] germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 1 month ago (1 children)
    [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

    upvotes Linux meme

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    [–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    and kernel-level anticheat. cant forget that one.

    [–] cron@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    That's a tough one. Clearly, everyone hates both kernel-level anticheat and cheaters. The level of hate depends.

    [–] drkt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Cheaters are a solved problem, in my opinion. It used to be that people hosted servers- moderating and managing their own communities. The industry went away from that in pursuit of cosmetics and control. There aren't cheaters on well managed community servers in Valve games, but cheaters run rampant in matchmaking in those same games.

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    [–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    Really? Ubisoft though? If there's any game studio I could do without, it would be Ubi. Because of their practices I haven't bought a game from them in years and years, and honestly it's not even been a challenge to pass them up.

    [–] cron@feddit.org 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I must confess that I love the Assassins Creed series

    [–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
    [–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    And including four, right? And Odyssey?

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    [–] juliebean@lemm.ee 34 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    i think you might be misunderstanding what '3rd party' means. if ubisoft is making you use an ubisoft launcher to run ubisoft games, that'd be first party. here's an article detailing what the terms mean with regards to game developers. a third party launcher would be like when you add a non-steam game to steam.

    [–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 36 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    ~~Third party~~ proprietary game launchers.

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    [–] cron@feddit.org 11 points 1 month ago

    Mandatory first party launchers?

    [–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    I dunno, I tend to think of the useless thing that comes up for a game I bought on Steam and run through Steam to be "third party"... Maybe that's a stretch, but whatever, it's just unwanted and unnecessary at that point

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    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 28 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Can't play one of my favorite MMOs on Linux because it now strictly requires the launcher that doesn't work.

    The game works! Before transitioning to a new launcher and strict laucher-only startup, it was fine. But now...yeah.

    [–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    No way to extract what the launcher does and use it as launch options in whatever youre using to launch the game?

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    [–] Fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    If you're talking about runescape, I've been using the fan made Bolt Launcher and it works great

    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Nah, Revelation Online. Requires VK Games launcher to start. But I'll see if your method works somehow, thanks!

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    [–] quantenzitrone@lemmings.world 24 points 1 month ago

    tbh i'm pretty happy installing everything through Lutris

    it works great for gog games and pirated games

    [–] recarsion@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    What about Steam? Linux gaming would be a whole lot worse off without Proton

    [–] cron@feddit.org 24 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    I could make another meme "Linux Gaming without Valve and Steam", but it would have another picture on it...

    It's my observation that Valve has earned the trust of the linux gaming community and therefore is the one and only acceptable proprietary launcher.

    [–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago

    and therefore is the one and only acceptable proprietary launcher.

    Yep! But that's only until they decide to enshitify, which they (Valve) will, because they (the humans making the correct choices today) will sell or retire.

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    [–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago

    Steam is the first party launcher as far as most of us are concerned. When another company puts their game on Steam but makes it go through their own launcher first, that is third party in our perspective and is a source of a lot of games not working.

    [–] nebulaone@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

    Steam is fine in my book. And I understand why it isn't open source with how much it's worth.

    [–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

    Steam has an effective monopoly on open, marketplace-style launchers. EGS is their only real competitor and everyone hates it. GOG is years behind the curve and Amazon's launcher barely exists. At this point in time, Steam is hardly considered third-party since it's so ubiquitous.

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    [–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    It always reminds me that genshin is playable on Linux with proton (at least in 4.2, and I didn't even tested wine). It's just the launcher that doesn't work. They are just so close yet so far

    [–] AkatsukiLevi@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    It is fully playable? I play on Linux with HoyoPlay and I have absolutely no issues?

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    [–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Why do you want to play Ubisoft games?

    [–] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

    Sometimes they're fun, sometimes friends play them and you want to join?

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    [–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    honestly just PC gaming in general without 3rd party launchers

    [–] the_beber@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Sometimes they make sense for managing mod-sets/different instances (i.e. Stellaris or most famously Minecraft.

    [–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    well yeah obviously, 3rd party launchers that are optional to use because they serve a purpose. Forced launchers like uplay and origin are the issue. they serve no purpose and offer a worse experience for the user and are forced on your system. Back in my day when a piece of software came with something else that pops up on your screen and runs in the background bogging down your system and collecting data, we considered that a virus.

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    [–] Voytrekk@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    The majority of the issues I have with WoW on Linux are because of the battle.net launcher. If they added the game to Steam, I'm sure I wouldn't have any issues.

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    [–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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    [–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    How to play Ubisoft games without the Ubisoft Launcher:
    Step 1) If you're an EU citizen, sign this petition: https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home
    If you are not in the EU, you can check if there are any other initiatives for your country here: https://www.stopkillinggames.com/
    Step 2) (Due to insurmountable pressure, which you definitely did your part in adding to, video games are now forced to have an end-of-life plan.
    Step 3) Wait until the game you want to play without the Ubi Launcher hits its end-of-life
    Step 4) Do whatever is necessary to get the game playable again, which the newly introduced law guarantees is possible
    Step 5) Enjoy your game without the Ubi launcher

    [–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    The Linux part usually is not a problem.

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    [–] testuserpleaseupvote@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    For me, the launchers are sometimes the only thing that worked while trying Linux the other day.

    [–] cron@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago

    If you need help, feel free to ask here on lemmy. At least my home instance has more linux users than windows users, and there are many who are happy to help.

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    [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    i'd be cool with launchers being made illegal. They do nothing anyway.

    [–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Bye bye Steam. No more of that easy proton integration.

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    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    ...except manage the game's environment, download and install local files and updates, validate those files to make sure they're not compromised, provide an API for service integration in games, manage middleware like Gamescope or Wine...

    It would be like banning all loud and annoying freight trucks inside city limits, and then wondering why food doesn't show up in stores anymore.

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