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The super privacy-focused third-party ROM, GrapheneOS now officially supports the Google Pixel 9, 9 Pro, and 9 Pro XL.

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[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 47 points 3 weeks ago

that was fast!

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

well that that was fast...

how long until second hand market becomes viable? Xmas?

[–] cron@feddit.org 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It takes a year or so until the second hand market has plenty to offer. But already a few days after the release you can find the first offers.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

is there any benefit to wait for 9 series second hand market to be competitive over buying 8 today?

[–] cron@feddit.org 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I have the Pixel 8a. For me, it's really a great phone. As far as I know, the 8a is never going to get the "Gemini AI" software due to limited memory (does not apply to 8/8pro).

Camera, performance, screen etc is mostly similar as I heard.

[–] Defaced@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's odd, I installed the Gemini app on my 6a like a week ago. Unless you're specifically talking about grapheneOS.

[–] cron@feddit.org 6 points 2 weeks ago

Whats not aupported is to run gemini nano directly on your phone. The default gemini (in the cloud) works fine.

[–] 474D@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Wait for a black Friday deal. I traded in my 4a previously and upgraded to a 7a for $150

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 20 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Does it receive all 16GB of RAM or is the 3GB still locked away?

Is Gemini Nano supported?

[–] evo@sh.itjust.works 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There isn't a chance in hell you're getting Gemini Nano outside of the stock ROM.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 5 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)
[–] evo@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because it's proprietary software. They have an open source model (based off it) called Gemma but Gemini Nano is super locked down. There aren't even public APIs for 3rd party developers to use it through the OS yet.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

An enormous portion of Google's products are proprietary and yet still made freely available to anyone.

[–] evo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

None of those are cutting edge AI models that could be ripped open and examined if people had access to the files. It's not just an app or something, there are internal trade secrets at risk.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No one is asking for access to the source code.

[–] evo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That is basically what you get if you have direct access to the LLM file(s).

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Then thousands of people already have that on their Pixel 9s and 8s.

[–] evo@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago

Locked away in the stock ROM. Almost certainly encrypted at rest.

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[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

Who knows. We do know that all of the pixel photo features work assuming you install the pixel photo app and give it NPU permissions.

The exciting bit is that we know you can deny internet access and all the picture AI stuff still works.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 9 points 3 weeks ago

Who knows

Presumably the GOS devs. And anyone who owns a P9x.

We do know that all of the pixel photo features work assuming you install the pixel photo app

Yeah, that's why I ask. Some of this stuff works already. The on-device AI in Gboard is incredible. As is the spam detection in GMessages.

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[–] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Fuck Gemini. Why would you want that piece of shit on your phone?

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 9 points 3 weeks ago

Having recorded and summarized phone calls is a pretty damn useful feature...

[–] Cringe2793@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] noxy@yiffit.net 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] cron@feddit.org 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's why people here are discussing Gemini nano, which can run locally on your phone and not in the cloud (like the "normal" gemini model)

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 3 weeks ago
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You might be able to get ollama running

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 2 weeks ago (17 children)

Ollama doesn't do anything that Gemini Nano does.

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