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[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 170 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (14 children)

What's Concord? I've literally never heard of this before

Spoiler: if you don't advertise at all, people won't play your game

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 143 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Spoiler: if you don’t advertise at all, people won’t play your game

Also:

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 34 points 2 months ago

That right there is a giant NOPE for me.

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[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 91 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Its an enormously overproduced Overwatch clone with zany characters that seem to be going for Guardians of the Galaxy, an art style that is basically just bizarre, and gameplay from a decade ago.

Sony wanted their own Overwatch, after seeing its success, then spent a huge amount of time and money developing it, and this is what they came up with.

Oh, right, it isn't free to play, costs 40 bucks, and then also has an astounding amount of microtransactions.

EDIT: Based off of current active player count, Concord has cost approximately $200,000 dollars per active player to produce.

Better hope they are all omega class hyper whale spenders, I guess.

[–] cafeinux@infosec.pub 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I just watched the trailer because I wanted to understand your comment. I definitely see the zaniness and Guardians of the Galaxy vibes. I always thought Overwatch was bizarre (but that's just me) but this is clearly more.

However, as someone that doesn't play shooters, could you develop more on what defines a gameplay from a decade ago? I wonder what can change that much in that kind of game.

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[–] Hux@lemmy.ml 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It’s a new game in which you play two folk musicians from New Zealand. You start off in a small NY apartment trying to get gigs and establish a relationship with an official at the local New Zealand consulate who later becomes your band manager.

It cost $4-billion dollars to develop, utilizes the F-14 Tomcat game engine from GameBoy Advance, and is expected to generate tens of dollars of revenue for Sony Corp.

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are any flights involved? I feel some flights should be involved in this setup...

[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It might be a different game, but I thought there would be flights too! Especially when they fight against the robot uprising of the year 2000.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

I'm a hiphopopotamus main btw.

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[–] golli@lemm.ee 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, hadn't heard about it until today either. But Steam also kind of torpedoed their launch by lifting their NDA for Deadlock on the same day. Not sure how similar they are, but that'll grab most of the attention from gamers right now.

[–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Both have heroes and are shooters, but the similarities end here, but you're overall right. From what I've seen of concord, it's just valorant with a mediocre twist, whereas deadlock has been my go-to game for the last week.

[–] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Concord is nothing like Valorant. The gameplay isn't even remotely similar.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

Yeah valorant is basically counterstrike with heroes, concord is overwatch but somehow even more boring.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

I've seen ads on random apps. But the logo looks like a '90s PC software logo. And nothing showed what the game actually looked like.

The clips they've shown look like the fake video games that you see in an advertisement for a specialized university.

[–] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

The marketing has been appalling. They've mainly focussed their intentions on PS5, but why release a game on a platform but not advertise it for that platform?

Maybe word-of-mouth about the game and some discounts might improve things over the coming months, but Sony have made a bit of a mess with the PC side of this.

[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Yep, first I’ve heard of it

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I think Valve would disagree.

~60k players on Deadlock yesterday, ~100k today. Probably more tomorrow. It's still in playtest.

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[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

they showed it off at the May 30th state of play, and thats about it for advertising. if you were a pc player and didnt watch sonys presentation, you likely would have never known

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I only ever saw one ad for the game, on my PlayStation, the day before it came out and even then I couldn't tell what it was. Is this a game? A movie? A TV show? The trailer fucking sucked at actually advertising what it was. No gameplay, no mention that it even was a game. It just seemed like a scene from an animated show for tweens.

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[–] tuckerm@supermeter.social 89 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I was watching a livestream of this game's reveal trailer. The chat was excited at first during the cinematic trailer. Sure, it looked like a Malt-O-Meal Guardians of the Galaxy, but it still looked like it could be fun. Then as soon as they said "5 v 5 live service game" there was a giant, collective "oh nevermind lol" from the chat.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

here's Jesse Cox going through the exact process except he predicts it too: https://youtube.com/shorts/l8kq4rIc10g

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago

From what i saw from the game it just looked super bland and boring. No one looked interesting at all, it didn't pop, if someone told me it was a passion project from a 3 man dev team i would've totally believed it.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 82 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

There are too many games of this sort. Nobody wants to play them because you have to devote your life to grinding and getting good if you want to be play well.

We need some new ideas and you don't need to bet the company on every game. Instead of pouring millions of dollars into a clone of existing games, develop several smaller more innovative games and see which ones succeed. For every Concord there is a Stardew Valley, Vampire Survivors, or Among Us.

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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 41 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Never heard of it. That could be a part of the reason.

[–] Davidchan@lemmynsfw.com 19 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Sony did a good job of killing PC players tolerance of their bullshit with the helldiver controversy.

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[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 32 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I never heard of it and searching for it on Steam doesn't give any results so I'm guessing it's not even available here.

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[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 months ago

The only ads I saw suggested it was PS5 exclusive lmao. amazing job Sony

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Like the Borderlands movie I'm not really sure who this game is for with the price tag they are asking for it with the f2p options available.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The price tag is likely to try to slow the bleeding when the writing was on the wall.

[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't know why they keep insisting on live service with an upfront cost. The only way these games are successful is by having a fuckton of teenagers with no money to fill the lobbies and make it feel lively and worthwhile. The minute you add an initial cost, there's just not enough of a player base to support a game with microtransactions.

I'm not a business genius, but they don't have to learn from me. There is the very clear precedent of Kill the justice league that they're choosing to ignore!

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[–] Nima@leminal.space 25 points 2 months ago

never heard of it. also I don't have a PlayStation account and I'm not willing to make one to play one game.

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 months ago

It's dead, Jim.

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 months ago

PlayStation what? Did they announce this thing at the last state of play?

I always watch those, but I'm pretty sure I've never heard of this...

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

As expected. The fact that this game wasn't marketed well or even that it is a hero shooter are not its only problems. Game has other issues and that's why people don't play it.

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