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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 36 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

EDIT: I really can’t fathom what could be so valuable and appealing about ~~Bibi’s~~ AIPAC’s friendship as to warrant this kind of hit to the campaign.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Because it's not just AIPAC! The entire military industrial complex is making a killing selling bombs and guns and jets, and those pro war voices are incredibly powerful and influential in both parties. Blaming AIPAC misdirects our attention by blaming foreign influence for a home grown probablem.

Wherever AIPAC is present, you can bet the Pentagon and all it's supporting industries are goose stepping in lock step with them.

[–] evidences@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Israel is a pretty good ally from an intelligence standpoint. For instance stuxnet the virus that crippled the Iranian nuclear program was partially developed by Israeli intelligence.

Not just the military industrial complex either a lot of US companies have gone hard into the manufacturing sector in Israel. Intel has one of their high end fabs there and I see a lot of random shit in stores that was made in Israel these days.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Israel is also the laboratory for repression. The US uses Israel to test all its new border and security technologies, as well as develop the training techniques for occupation soldiers i.e. police. What Israel invents is deployed within the US.

If Israel did not exist, the US would need to create one to serve her interests.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

One related point: Stuxnet only set back the Iranian nuclear program a few months at most, while endangering the security of nearly the entire internet in the process, as well as opening up a new weapon of war in the form of digital attacks on critical infrastructure.

The US even had to divert a ton of resources to secure its own systems, from itself (and Israel)'s attack. Its probably the worst case of blowback we have so far in the digital era.

The documentary zero days is really good, and goes over this.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Not Bibi, but AIPAC and CUFI.

And also, the Democratic party itself is quite Zionist, with Blinken en Shapiro perhaps the most well known Zionists.

Democrats don't want AIPAC and CUFI to support Trump. Wavering on Israel will actually rile up the evangelicals to turn out massively for Republicans.

The sad fact of the matter is that 75% of the American electorate will support Israel regardless of how many kids they kill.

And the remaining 25% are actually split between Republican and Democratic voters and don't hold sway in either party.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

The evangelicals are already voting for trump

The Democratic party's disregard for Palestinian voices is costing them a significant amount of support from voters in key states

Hundreds of thousands of committed Democratic voters, hundreds of delegates, and the majority of the country are in support of a permanent ceasefire

[–] TheLameSauce@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Source for those numbers?

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago

Because war is a racket, the players aren't relevant as long as the profits keep flowing.

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago

I assume they're not sucking up to Bibi, but to AIPAC.

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

But Obama said don't let the perfect be the enemy of the horrible.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago

Nice. Blue MAGA doesn't want those votes they're not getting those votes.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago

"can you please say that genocide is bad, we're literally paying for it."

"omg blue maga!!!"