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During an appearance on MSNBC's "Way Too Early," the New York Times' Peter Baker suggested Donald Trump is still having a great deal of difficulty coming to terms with the notion that he could lose in November to Vice President Kamala Harris.Baker claims that the former president's recent actions de...

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[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 111 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm going to fill in that Harris/Walz bubble so hard he's going to feel it.

He's going to lose, and I'm going to enjoy being a part of making it happen.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 99 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Nothing is guaranteed before the election.

And since Jan6th is how Trump left the last election, nothing is guaranteed even if the election wins. But an election victory in massive numbers would be our best bet moving forward. It cannot be close, Trump must be soundly defeated for the country to move forward effectively.

[–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

While I agree, I think trump will whip his sycophants into a lather if he loses, regardless of how close, and more people will get hurt and killed. They need deprogramming, like a Nazi in 1946. Or if they choose to act on their fuhrers orders, hanged for treason. The time to be soft on this shit is over, leniency will bring more January 6th's

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 51 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Nazis lived on until they died, believing that the Holocaust was a myth.

That's why we built the Holocaust museum and other WW2 museums. To make sure that as the Nazis died off decades or a century later, that our message would outlast them.

There's no "deprogramming" here. This is going to be a lifelong obligation for us to fight against bad ideas.

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Start hanging them. They'll run for the rocks they crawled out of.

[–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Exactly. That video of the police officer being chased by a mob down hallways of one of our highest institutions makes me sick for what Trump is doing to our democracy.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The risk isn't another Jan-6. The risk is from his cronies positioned as election officials in the coming election.

Imagine a few counties in various states that refuse to certify the vote counts because of supposed irregularities. Imagine the miriad lawsuits that will be files by Trump's sycophants on Nov. 3rd. They will tie up the elections in as many states as they can with the goal of having SCOTUS step in and declare Trump the winner.

The chaos and violence this time will not be in DC. It'll be everywhere else.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

The risk isn't another Jan-6. The risk is from his cronies positioned as election officials in the coming election.

This - well, it’s probably both, but the “legal vote stealers” will be gunning for anyone they can get away with steamrolling. Crooked judges or weak Democratic responses will mean we lose legitimate vote counts to theft.

That will be very bad, for all the reasons, and again - that is their plan.

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Once positive difference: The current president is Biden, not Trump. Assuming Harris wins, Biden will absolutely ensure that nothing even remotely like January 6th is allowed to happen again.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

He’ll have to activate the army in red states because they've already passed their unconstitutional laws. And the MAGA white trash parade will be non-stop, armed, and stupid as fuck.

I mean - they’re completely believing a demented sociopath. And lots of gravy seals are ready to kill innocent people again. They really don’t understand how fucked up they’ve made things. Because of all the bigly winning.

I hope they’ve got the sense to prepare for batshit preppers gone wild.

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[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

Yeah well he and his cronies were also in power during and before that time so I think we'd have a bit more backup this time

[–] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 12 points 2 months ago

Jimmy Carter shall lead the way!

[–] Sumocat@lemmy.world 93 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Again. He may lose again. He lost the popular vote twice. He will definitely lose it a third time, and he may lose the election again. “Again” needs to be emphasized because he’s going to keep trying and we must make sure he loses again.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago

Trump said to be struggling to come to grips that he may lose again

FTFY

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Remember that "The Democrats are the best at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory" is a thing and we've still got some time to go until November.

I'm not believing anything is over until February. I'll give January to all the lawsuits they'll file and whatever stolen election bullshit they're going to pull, but I'm not going to believe Trump will lose that easily even if the rally sizes are "looking good" for us.

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[–] Hydra_Fk@reddthat.com 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

😂 It would make my day to see him lose to a woman. And the icing on the cake is she is a minority some even say black. I'm actually excited to vote now.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

That's a good point. Not only will we see democracy spared, we'll get to see low t humiliated by losing to a woman of color.

I cannot wait to vote.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’d be terrible if all the stress gave him a massive heart attack.

[–] OopsAllTwix@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It would be shame if the heart attack was caused by being torn apart by a pack of wild dogs. I hope he doesn't catch fire and there's nobody around with a full bladder to put out the flames.

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 8 points 2 months ago

I honestly wouldn't walk across a street to piss on him if he was on fire.

[–] joekar1990@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

You can go back even to 2016 where he was laying the ground work to say he didn't lose to Hilary and then he won and I think it shocked him a bit. He's always been like this though across everything.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 28 points 2 months ago (6 children)

this ancient orange piece of shit is overstressed and could just fucking die at any time. puts a smile on my face every time i think about it.

[–] kikutwo@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully on camera at one of his misinformation events.

[–] aniki@lemmings.world 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I am so excited to take a shit on his grave after his inevitable heart attack.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

I will also be there for the group poop

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He didn't even come to grips losing the popular vote to Hillary Clinton.

[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Or having less people at his inauguration than Obama.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Anyone here ever watched Downfall? I'll be honest, I kinda hate Trump=Hitler comparisons, but this article and Trump's past few weeks reminds me a lot of Hitler's final scenes in the film, just completely delusional about some long-since destroyed corps coming in to save Berlin from the overwhelming Reds. I can only hope that it turns out that way

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I would pay to watch Trump angrily and frustratingly banging on a table screaming " Nein Nein Nein", more so with tears in his eyes and his pack behind him knowing they can't interfere without taking the brunt of it, watching their world view just smolder to the ground.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A trump in denial is a dangerous thing. Expect him to mobilize his band of slack-jawed troglodytes.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nothing more dangerous than an orange imbecile out of options.

[–] Nfamwap@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

I see you have met my cat

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

He didn't come to grips with it last time around. Why would this be different?

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Where's Joe???"

Its definitely Alzheimer's

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

It's tsundere

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Oh he is going to lose and he is going to lose badly.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We said that A LOT in 2016.

A lot.

Because - I mean . . . right? What sane person would want this horrific bastard anywhere near government ever??

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[–] Clent@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

The issue he's going to face is that he has no power this time.

Last time he was the president. He was able to set up the situation that lead to a crisis with no immediate response.

There is no way that happens. They will be ready regardless of how likely anything is going to develop.

I won't be surprised if there is a much larger body count this time around. I would be disappointed if the order to shoot on sight wasn't given for anyone that storms any federal building.

They need to be prepared for bombings like what happened in Oklahoma all those years ago.

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

I'm not sure what's worse, the idea that he may recognize that he lost the election and tries to stage a coup to steal it, or the idea that he honestly and genuinely believes that he won and tries to stage a coup to enforce it.

[–] Unlocalhost@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Well make sure it's a reality, please remember to VOTE!

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

He just thought he was going to waddle his way to an easy victory, didn't he? Especially after that Republican kid shot at him and before Biden stepped down...

[–] echo@lemmings.world 11 points 2 months ago

He's always been separated from reality. If he's suffering, it may be that he's actually having to face reality.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Orange traitor bitch is going to die in prison. Holla!

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

He won't, but wouldn't it be great...

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[–] ChrisG@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

He’s motivated by Attention, Grifting and not going to jail.

He will throw GOP & the cult under the bus by dropping out after he’s finished strip mining them of every penny and seek a pardon in exchange for a promise to call off the cult.

Like Nixon he will do anything to avoid jail

[–] kikutwo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

That's what happens with dementia.

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