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It looks like the /c/formula1 community is basically running unmoderated at the moment. The current mod doesn't look that active and this might cause issues in the future. Is there a way to add more mods to the community so that we can organize a bit more?

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[–] melonpunk@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@Photographer@lemmy.world posted 3 days back, but yeah, so is around.

There are two competing F1 communities between Lemmy.world and Lemmy.ml it would be good to try and draw the conversation together.

[–] PriorProject@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agree that it would be good to unite these communities. I raised it to the mod of the world community within a few days of the community being created but they deleted my post with not much explanation beyond "I'm not shutting the community down, don't advertise other communities".

This was also reported as an unmoderated community about a week ago, but the poster deleted their post. Not sure if the mod got in touch with them, an admin did, or they just randomly deleted it. I didn't notice any official public responses before the post got deleted.

It's certainly a decently sized community that's sufficiently under-moderated that multiple people think the mod is absent, and the existing mod doesn't seem to be putting up calls for others to join the mod team.

[–] wes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

That post was mine, i deleted the post because i saw that @Photographer@lemmy.world was active again, albeit it was just one post and unrelated to the formula1 sub. After that one message it's crickets again. Me and other members are putting in time and effort to make the community work but it needs active mods.

[–] Photographer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No, the communities will remain seperate, we have discussed already and there is no harm in having both

[–] wes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just want to add that last week i also made a post here requesting for some sort of solution, but as the current mod seemed to be active again (with one message unrelated to the f1 community) i thought it was going to be solved. But the mod seems not interested in maintaining one of the biggest f1 community and seems really abandoned.

[–] Photographer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

as you well know wes I am active but that does not require me to post constantly, I believe I reached out to make you a mod on F1 but I would prefer we do not make accusations about the sub being abandoned when it is not true

[–] wes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have not been contacted to becoming a mod, and while it is true that you don’t need to post all the time it would just be a shame to let the biggest f1 community become a cesspool without good moderation.

[–] Photographer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not the first time a message hasnt gone through on Lemmy, never mind. Would you like to join and help mod, you do a great job with the stickies already. My only caveats are that you are happy we remain seperate from the lemmy.ml community - no issue with that community but they can both exist. It allows us flexibility in our rule set that they do not have as they chose to follow the reddit rules. I would also not like any other moderators to be added as of yet. Does that sound good to you?

[–] wes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I also think the communities can be separate. I would highly suggest making user bwoah mod also as he/she brings the most content and is very involved. If we cannot both help with modding then I would suggest just making user bwoah mod for now.

[–] PriorProject@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

An admin responded in a semi-similar thread and suggested getting in touch with the mod to offer to join the mod-team or transfer the community: https://lemmy.world/comment/923510

My guess, given that this mod is semi-active, is that admins would want to see:

  1. Community members offer to join the mod-team or take-over that are ignored or rebuffed for some extended time period like a week or more. There's a bunch of unanswered at-mentions in this post, so that's a decent start.
  2. Evidence that the mod guidelines at https://lemmy.world/post/424735 aren't being followed (which based on this thread I think the "enough mods" guideline isn't... plus there are no sidebar rules, so I think there's a case here).
  3. Gather links to any posts/comment-threads that are suffering due to undermoderation, especially if instance rules at https://mastodon.world/about (yes, that's a mastodon link, the admin teams are the same and that's where they post them) are being broken and not handled.
  4. If the mod takes any retaliatory action like harassing you in DMs or banning people participating in discussions like this from the community, definitely document that as well.
  5. Crosspost this to https://lemmy.world/c/moderators with all the evidence above asking for an admin intervention.

If there's a decent paper trail of the mod not meeting mod guidelines, not enforcing instance rules, and not accepting help... I think that's the point at which they might possibly consider intervening more directly. For a semi-active mod, they probably want folks to make a concerted attempt to work it out one-on-one first.

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using an URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !moderators@lemmy.world

[–] CaptainHowdy@vlemmy.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think its gonna have to be voluntary, bud. As Lemmy gets more users and communities start forming, people will start moderating on their own accord. If you see something serious, like ad spamming, hate speech or CP, it might be worth reporting it to the home servers admins.

[–] bwoah@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I already sent him a message a few days ago and he didn't respond. Right now it's fine but it can descend into chaos if he's not that active

[–] Photographer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It is not running unmoderated, I will add more mods but had trouble logging into lemmy.world due to server issues

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