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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 84 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It hasnt even been tested on humans yet. Lame hype article.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Anything “as effective as minoxidil” is pretty underwhelming news anyway, especially if that’s all it can claim even during its empty hype phase. Next.

[–] ramirezmike@programming.dev 62 points 3 months ago (1 children)

the article says "The deoxyribose gel was so effective, researchers found it worked just as well as minoxidil"

minoxidil isn't that effective to begin with. It even points that out later in the article.

This is interesting but I'm not optimistic.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was incredibly excited until I read that. Yeah, minoxidil has never worked for me.

[–] ramirezmike@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

my understanding is that minoxidil addresses half the problem and finasteride addresses the other half.. it's something like minoxidil increases the blood flow and finasteride thickens the hair (usually male pattern baldness is like just your hair is too thin to break through the skin or something?)

if you're gonna try, I'd say it's not worth it unless you're doing both at the same time. It works really well for some people, but I'm too worried about the side effects to try

plus, I save so much money just shaving my head 😂

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I won't take finesteride. The possible side effects are too risky for me. I know it's only a 3% chance, but 3% chance of permanently losing my libido and shrinking my penis is 3% too much for me. Like, what's the point of having hair and being attractive if I don't even have any interest in the things that come from being attractive?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Drugs for male vanity are “under-researched”?

That seems unlikely.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I used to feel we waste a lot of effort on these vanity type research; baldness, erectile dysfunction, etc. But now that I’m older, and dealing with other mental health issues, I can appreciate the value that these medicines may have for a lot of men (and women) for their mental health wellness.

Ive had male pattern baldness since I was in my early twenties. I got ahead of it by shaving my head. It’s worked well for me as a good look. And I love not having to deal with the hassle of “bad hair days”. But, I’ll be honest, if I had an opportunity to grow my hair back, I probably would. It’s a confidence thing. Confidence can also help boost self-esteem and positive self-image. I’m sure the same thing can be said for ED. Men deserve some positive self-image. 💙

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don’t know how anyone can consider erectile dysfunction a vanity ailment. I hear extremo feminists talk about viagra as an evil medicine for rich white men to rape more with, and it’s incredibly offensive to me. It’s right up there with saying that abortion is for wanton sluts who want to fuck without consequences. Come on folks. It’s not that hard to just agree that proper sexual function is one aspect of health, and that everyone has a right to it.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, I was referring to an older way that I used to think. I’ve grown up a lot since then and made certain realizations that while these treatments are not medically necessary to one’s physical health, they are medically necessary for one’s mental health. So yes, you and I are in agreement.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

For sure - that was clear. I was talking about others who still think this way. Cheers

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I hear ya. But men get all the research anyway. Hey if this turns out to be a thing, great. I just have to think in the country with Hair Club For Men there’s been more than a little money thrown at pattern baldness so the comment that it was “under-researched” seemed pretty far-fetched.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I believe the commenter was being sarcastic, which is why “under-researched” was in quotes. They also followed it up with how they felt it was unlikely.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

No the quotes were mine. The actual quote from the article was

If the deoxyribose gel also proves effective in humans, it could be used to treat alopecia or even stimulate hair, lash, and eyebrow regrowth following chemotherapy.

"This is a badly under-researched area, and hence new approaches are needed," argue the authors.

[–] Good_morning@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 3 months ago

Same story exactly, if it looked like it'd work and not be just fake hair, and not super costly, I'd like my hair back.

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Women face baldness as well, it's less common but hair is seen as such a feminine trait I bet it's devastating to go through that.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Indeed. It’s worse for them. A man can walk around bald if he wants to. Maybe he won’t be so attractive, but he can do it. Women who lose all their hair have to resort to head wraps and wigs. They can’t just scalp it like they don’t care.

[–] RabbePompano@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

That's how it was for men at first too though. Men had to hang into their hair and just have a bald spot, or wear a wig, or do the comb over. It wasn't until I'd say the nineties that shaving the head for men has been a positive look. We should start the trend of shaved head women.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Agreed, if it actually comes to fruition, great.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Ever see a men's makeup department?

Makeup is a topical drug that makes women feel better about themselves.

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Weirdly worded, but when I repeated this to myself with a positive tone - it's kinda true. Makeup can make you feel better about yourself. Feelings are valid. Everyone deserves to feel better about themselves.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

What the fuck

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

And we have a celebrity role model with a major presidential candidate rocking foundation, with his VP candidate showing off some guy-liner!

[–] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Your question piqued my interest so I did a quick search and found both Nordstrom and Walmart sell men's makeup. So yes there are men's makeup departments.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago

Are you referring to how some woman treat makeup as an addiction, similar to how there are people addicted to playing the lottery?

Or do you mean it in a way to suggest that makeup contains chemicals like narcotics that alter the person’s perception of reality (and I’m not referring to covering up blemishes for smoother skin)?

[–] Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

So this is why I had a DIY hair growth 'recipe' in my feed. Just rub sugar on your head! It's so simple!

It's nice to see the study that actually led to that mess.

[–] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Where do I buy deoxyribose sugar? Can I just use sugar from the supermarket?

[–] Beryl@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Deoxyribose is the 'D' in DNA. Just use the blood of your enemies.

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Beryl@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

As long as it's the sperm of your enemies that's fine by be. Might take a bit longer to harvest though.

[–] DoctorButts@kbin.melroy.org 15 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Yeah man. Just rub sugar water all over your scalp.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

It must be right because they got doctor in their name!

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Instructions unclear, I poured caramel on my head, now I am ~~bold~~ bald as a billiard ball!

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Sorry, I meant bald. Please, excuse my dyslexic-idiot-self.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have treated my scalp with simple syrup as instructed. Does the new hair stick to it or what?

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not exactly.
You’re supposed to apply the treatment and expose your scalp to low-angle sunlight that’s slightly mottled. Something about the incident angle of the light rays paired with the low intensity (due to the dappling) just supercharge the hair growth process.

Experts recommend applying the mixture to your scalp an hour or two before sunset, and going for a walk through a wooded area. You should begin to see results immediately.
The hair will grow in very fast during your walk with a large central cluster that may appear to be a black speck or oblong shape. It will sprout with 6 to 8 longer hairs that may appear to be segmented, and may even move with the lightest breeze or touch. This is normal. It’s common to feel a pinching, itching, or even burning sensation with each hair cluster that appears on your head. If new hair clusters stop appearing while outside, please reapply the sugar-water mixture to your scalp.

It’s not recommended to shower after returning from the forest. This may wash away the delicate new hair clusters before they can root. You should also avoid this in the early morning, as the hair that grows under early morning light is silver and very fine. For some reason this very fine hair has a tendency to grow on your face, even if you have not applied the solution there.

^Source:^ ^I^ ^am^ ^lying.^

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago
[–] tpihkal@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago
[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They’ll do anything to push HFCS! /s

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Let’s hope our DNA is not made up of HFCS. 😂