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[–] morphballganon@lemmynsfw.com 66 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Doesn't matter if the appeal process takes longer than 4 months

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 38 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't matter if it ends up in the same judge's court room

[–] errer@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Uh can appeals appear in the same courtroom? I thought it’d automatically go to the next level

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The appeals court can reinstate the case, but it would then go back to the trial court to continue litigation. It's only an appeal of the dismissal.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 months ago

Seems like if you’re going to bother with an appeal, you might as well try for a new judge/venue as well.

[–] neclimdul@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Well if the 11th is quick, Trump still appeals to SCOTUS and we've seen how they drag their feet for him. And even if they didn't, the case probably wouldn't get far.

If you're hoping for this to affect the election at this point, I think the only thing to hope for is some bad rulings that get sensationalized as an October surprise to remind people what it was like last time he was in office.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 46 points 3 months ago

And the court could ignore all of that, too, and do whatever the fuck it wants just like it has been doing all along.

[–] echo@lemmings.world 41 points 3 months ago

Supreme Court doesn't give a shit about precedent and settled case law...

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It should just be refiled in Washington DC. The documents where stored at mar a Lago but where stolen from DC.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which is what should have been done from the beginning

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Nah, they argument for a Florida filing was solid. And I think having it in front of a conservative appointee is best in regards to optics.

It's just that this is not a conservative appointee but a Maga appointee. And too long people (the DOJ) dilided themselves this was just conservatives.. vut maga is the mutated cousin fucking 11 fingered insane offspring of the OG GOP.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

He could request a new judge in the appeal. She’s shown some strong bias

[–] neclimdul@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

With the current SCOTUS, appealing to 140 years of history still feels like a gamble. It feels like they'd throw out 1000 years of history and explicit wording from the Bible if it benefited Republicans.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I doubt SCOTUS would touch this on appeal. The logic flies in the face of recent rulings. Even Trump’s AG used a special counsel. It should be quickly overturned by the appellate court

[–] neclimdul@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I would hope so but I wouldn't put money on it.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago

I’d put money on it. Because it won’t matter. By the time the appeal is heard and new dates come along, one of two things will have happened. Either Trump will have lost and it won’t matter to republicans that he is facing charges, or he will be president and will fire anyone in the justice department needed to get the charges dropped under the label of “official action”.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The bad news is that the 11th circuit has a markedly conservative lean last I checked, and the circuit justice is none other than Clarence Thomas.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

Yeah this case is dead.

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's ok. Hunter Biden's lawyers are using Canon's legal precedent for his own needs.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hunter%20biden%20using%20judge%20cannon&ko=-1&ia=web

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I cannot overemphasize how little I care about Hunter Biden.

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

I don't care either but it will show the facists why they cant fuck with the law blindly

[–] Rekhyt@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You may not care not conservatives care. If Clarence Thomas can write an opinion that will let Cannon's dismissal stand but deny Hunter Biden's appeal, he will. The rabid need to do something to (any) Biden may override the desire to let this stand for Trump.

I mean, we’ll see. If the Tribunal of Six decides to play it that way, I think a lot of people in a lot of places are at the very least going to stop following their directions, and may in fact incite some to expose them to high-velocity lead poisoning, because that would be a blatant and undeniable implicit admission of clear and fundamental political bias.

[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Notice when news sites use Trump photos framed to show his ear bandage prominently.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That shit may end up backfiring on him, especially if he keeps wearing it for weeks after his fucking shaving nick would have healed already. He just looks like a pussy with it.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 3 months ago

That bandage looks so stupid. If Trump wanted to look tough, he should've have just had some stitches. Instead Trump is a little piss baby.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Has Smith confirmed he's appealing? It seems odd that he wouldn't immediately do so.