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Vance is one of Trump's most vocal supporters and an outspoken critic of U.S. aid to Ukraine.

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Vance has said that it would be "completely irresponsible" for Ukraine to join NATO. He has also argued for the U.S. to focus solely on preventing Chinese expansion, even if that means sacrificing sovereign Ukrainian lands to Russia.

"Any peace settlement is going to require some significant territorial concessions from Ukraine, and you're gonna have a peace deal, because that's the only way out of the conflict," Vance said in February.

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[–] echo@lemmings.world 90 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, that's kind of a pre-requisite to being on Putin's payroll...

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 86 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

"Non interventionist

"Fully supports israel"

Meme candidates gonna meme

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 60 points 4 months ago (15 children)
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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 53 points 4 months ago (6 children)

This presupposes he believes in anything. I haven’t read it because everyone said it was garbage but I’m pretty sure he wrote his memoir about “Appalachia” when he grew up near Dayton, OH.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 48 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He also cosplayed a poor person to speak to rich people about how "We poor people have horrible habits!" in what I can only refer to as a minstrel show for the privileged.

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[–] andxz@lemmy.world 50 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I've been on the outside observing this escalating shit show for 8 years now and I think I've finally reached the point where I don't even have the words to convey what I feel about the current state of American politics.

I mean, I know there's a lot of history behind it etc., but just the past months? I don't even..

I hope shit gets better for ya'll, I sincerely do.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

don’t even have the words to convey what I feel about the current state of American politics.

It's just fascism, volks.

[–] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don't worry. It won't. As an American, I too have reached that point as well.

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 4 months ago (27 children)

HERE COME THE FUCKING TANKIES

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[–] gardylou@lemmy.world 39 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Putins favorite, JD Vance.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 36 points 4 months ago (3 children)

What's the lead time on T-shirt printing these days?

Should I get the "Hang JD Vance" shirts printed now so I've got them ready to sell, or wait until Trump inevitably turns on him?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Vance is going to push Trump down a flight of stairs his first five minutes in office. He's going to invoke the 25th amendment so fast it'll make your head spin.

The guy has absolutely no interest in being VP and his buddies in Silicon Valley are already chomping at the bit for a Techbro Coup. He's not going to wait 3 hours much less 3 days.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The concept of a Techbro coup is so fucking absurd to me. Like I can recognize it as a threat, but also I suspect it would last a whole of five seconds until you have a pile of Techbro corpses. Mostly cause Techbros are the dumbest motherfuckers and only have soft power, add on to the fact that nobody fucking likes them and well theres a good chance theyd be mulched.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Like I can recognize it as a threat, but also I suspect it would last a whole of five seconds until you have a pile of Techbro corpses.

Plenty of the coups in Latin America and the Middle East during the 50s and 60s were sponsored by these bean-counters and their billionaire buddies working out of various right-wing think tanks. The Chicago School of Business produced legions of these fuckers and flew them out from Mexico City to Santiago to Brasília. The Saudi Crown Prince MBS has absolutely inundated himself with these freaks in his quest to build the world's most technologically advanced shopping mall. New Zealand is currently drowning in Techbro fascism, after their local media was hijacked by the far right and the residents talked into electing a white nationalist government.

Hell, states like California and Texas and Florida are already thick with these ghouls. That's a big reason why our energy prices are skyrocketing in these states. Techbros build these enormous power-hog data centers and jack up the price of electricity for everyone else.

Techbros are the dumbest motherfuckers and only have soft power

They have a great deal of institutional power through contracts with federal and state governments. They're embedded deep in the post-War on Terror panopticon and own huge stakes in private media, so they get to dictate a lot of what we see and hear while distorting public outcries and SWATing political dissidents.

Techbros aren't the brightest, but cops are way dumber and more easy to manipulate. And as our domestic budget increasingly becomes "Oops! All Cops!" that means obedience to the Techbro Establishment is how you make money and keep your job, especially as law enforcement.

That's huge leverage in a system that already favors extremist ultra-nationalist white supremacy.

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[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Its very easy to see that Putin is running the GOP.

At this point it looks like they are competing on who in the GOP can suck up to the russians the most

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh look, he shaved his beard for Daddy Trump. Wouldn't want Dear Leader to disapprove of your facial hair now would we, Jay Dee?

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[–] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm not complaining. Only way I'd be happier with his VP pick is if he took up Rubio and forced him to give up Florida.

Vance is also a snake and he'll backstab the orange man at some point most likely.

[–] PlainSimpleGarak@lemm.ee 28 points 4 months ago (8 children)

Vance is a cuck. He was a harsh critic of Trump until he wasn't.

I don't see how Vance gets Trump any extra votes. They appear to attract the same kind of people.

If they win, it gets Vance out of my state. Which is fine (I voted for Tim Ryan).

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

Vance is there so Trump can scapegoat him for handing Putin everything he wants, that's about it.

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