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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17448835

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17448834

Microsoft asks many Game Pass subscribers to pay more for less

"Launch day access to first-party titles now restricted to $19.99/month 'Ultimate' tier."

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 56 points 4 months ago (3 children)

$16.99 was pretty steep for how much I used it, I just cancelled.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The problem with these things is that it usually works out being a net positive for the company. Like when Netflix stopped allowing households to share passwords. I cancelled, and hoped that drives of other people would cancel too. But Netflix did their research just like any other company would, and they ended up getting more subscribers and more money because of it. The era of good deals is over. The era of squeezing customers for everything they're worth is here. There is no more competition, and thus no reason for them to offer good deals.

[–] Delusional@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I pirated a lot when I was younger, then things became more easily available and cheaper so I started buying all my games and movies again. And now they're going in a backwards direction and making things sorta expensive again and there are a dozen different subscription services so now I'm back to pirating again.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Same here man. We were up to about $70 per month for streaming services, which was right back to cable TV type of shit. When Netflix pulled the password stunt that pushed us over the edge and we've been real-debrid ever since.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Cheap online codes are the way to do gamepass. I agree at 20 a month it’s not really a great deal anymore

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yea, if you look at your purchases you probably spend less than 20/month on average for games. Plus many of the "big" games aren't on game pass, so you are paying even more.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I’ve done the math; for what I currently pay if I play two full price games on gamepass a year I come out ahead. Now that’s only because codes are cheap on cdkeys and eneba but once that changes I’ll jump ship

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

That also assumes you benefit from playing them day one.

There are plenty of games that I would play day one if it's available. But if not, then I would happily wait and buy it when it's cheaper. Also, the ownership adds to the value if I'm not keeping it all the time.

So if I would have waited until the game is $40, I'm saving $40 max. But also, I'll still have it 2 years from now when it's worth $25, assuming I want to play it again. So it maybe saved me $15, depending how you look at it.

[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Agreed. I guess it’s that value proposition: if you have the time to play, and you play their whole catalog and have a blast, that’s $16.99 well spent.

As for me I love owning my games (where possible due to licensing and DRM), so the value isn’t there. But my spouse and I certainly took advantage of the heavy discounts they offered like the $1 month. I planned it so that I could try as many games as I could during that period and ended up buying them on GOG or Steam if I really loved them.

If their whole catalog is refreshed and they have another heavily discounted offer for 1 month, I’ll pick up a month just to try those games. But I definitely would never be a long term customer, I’d be a parasite loss-leader lol.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And games are gimped on gamepass. When palworld released I had to purchase it on steam anyway to be able to play with my buddies. Also patches are late. Very late. I will not be renewing.

[–] Delusional@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah Xbox game pass uses the Xbox version of the game which is sometimes different. Deep rock galactic on game pass won't let you play with deep rock steam players and vice versa.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

This is was inevitable. I have opposed the idea of game pass since inception, and I still do.

[–] Tagger@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I think it's a pretty good deal. As a dad who has limited amount of time to play, I've had an Xbox for 16 months and bought it with game pass.

In that time I've played > 50 games and played about 15 of them to the credits.

In that time I've not actually bought a game. At the new price of $20 is have paid $320 which is the cost of about 5 or 6 games, Maybe 10 or a 11 if I'd aimed for sales.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That doesn't sound like a limited amount of time to play.

[–] Tagger@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I know right. I get about an hour a day and was quite shocked as I just went back through my achievements to see how much I'd actually played in that time.

[–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean console games are always more expensive. There's always something amusing about getting about 20 good games for five bucks on PC. Also epic games is still trying to bribe us with free games.

[–] absquatulate@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That does sound like a pretty good deal. The thing is, it used to be a fantastic deal. And judging by the way they are acquiring multi billion studios and IPs left and right it's clear as daylight that they want to monopolize the market and keep the subscription model for a long time, which means the deal will get ever worse. So yeah, this pricing change was definitely expected.

Didn't mean to diminish your experience, sorry.

[–] Tagger@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah, I can see that and I do worry about how the 'deal' with over change and how frustrating it could be to have seen the deal diminish already