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[–] masu@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I’m incredibly discouraged at the privacy community’s inability to come together for a losing fight. [...] The sheer lack of empathy in the privacy community is astounding, I’ve never seen anything quite like it. Developers attacking other projects to protect their fragile ego, people new to privacy being shamed for not knowing everything out the gate, users pushed to feel regret because of their conscious (and commonly educated) decision to stay within the Apple ecosystem and work within its limitations. The list goes on.

This is something that I've been echoing for quite a while now. Lots of people completely divided. We need marginal increases in privacy for the masses as opposed to extreme life changes for the few.

[–] ganymede@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

yeah its pretty shit, but its probably also a result of the very successful public campaigns to portray anyone interested in personal privacy as a tinfoil lunatic.

privacy advocates growing weary of being attacked and ridiculed, inevitably turning nasty themselves.

not saying its justified, just trying to identify the roots so we can hopefully fix them.

all of us may sometimes be at risk of falling into these traps.

[–] aalex@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't understand why people are saying what they are about Techlore. It is a great channel, run by an amazing group of people. The people commenting clearly don't know anything about Techlore as if they did, they would know that everything they are saying makes no sense.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Because the article is asking them to aknowledge the issues with the way they act, the way we act, and they don't want to do that so they get mad.

[–] Helix@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

By a CEO of a 'team'

[–] brombek@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

We need to consider individual threat models and offer personalized advice to avoid planting unnecessary seeds of doubt in an already fragile community that struggles to be a single collective.

And the reason for that is there are no perfect solutions that apply to all threat models without compromises.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This dude writes stuff like this just to fracture the 'community' even further. Stuff like this and his graphene video just come off like whining and it does no good for anyone. There is no 'privacy community', its just a topic and people have differing opinions which this guy can't seem to wrap his head around.

Its quite the shit show and they should just stop.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He's literally asking people to empathize more, to give more personalized recommendations and to have an open mind. How is that fracturing the community?

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is no community and there never has been. There's only people that cling to the words of youtuber personalities like him and others who don't buy into it and live their own lives on their own terms. It really becomes apparent when he goes out of his way to make posts like this one, he is only in it for the revenue this argument brings. Especially when they're giving bad advice and spreading misinformation about other projects.

Gathering people around a central topic and creating a 'community' base on it is what reddit did so well, and in the end, why it ended up being so terrible. It just serves to create yet another echo chamber. When you're dealing with an esoteric topic like 'privacy' which has multiple different meanings to multiple people, grouping people around it is the equivalent of cyber suburbia. These topical communities are a farce and should not be something anyone defends.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

You keep contradicting yourself, do you think there's a community or not?

[–] armoredgore@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

well it's not like I don't want to violate my own privacy hahah hahahah