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[–] archonet@lemy.lol 176 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Fetterman really is a mixed bag, and to be honest, I kind of like that. Life should be full of nuanced characters, I shouldn't have to decide between the same cookie cutter pieces of shit we have every election.

He's a piece of shit for supporting Israel so staunchly, don't get me wrong, but there's also plenty to like about him.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 65 points 4 months ago

When I worked for Allegheny county I ended up in a number of meetings with him, and have spent time speaking with him casually. What he did in Braddock was top notch governance. He pushed a very progressive agenda, and fought with everyone in the local government over it, but he mostly got his way, and stopped Braddock from being a food desert, increased the graduation rates, and a number of other major QOL metrics. He is very pro-labor, and pro-labor organization.

He did support Israel, but he admitted that a lot of what was happening there left a bad taste in his mouth. I don't if it was the stroke, or he sold out to AIPAC, but he has turned hard line on that, apparently. I

[–] knightly@pawb.social 37 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Even a stopped clock can be right twice a day.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 32 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Its more like, even a decent clock goes off during daylight savings. Or something idk

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 17 points 4 months ago (3 children)

If a clock was a muscle car, and the american election was the engine, the minute hand would be the bumper stickers and the hour hand would be a bald eagle

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I want you to understand just how much reading this hurt my brain in ways I am scarsely able to verbalize .

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[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

And a clock running backwards even 4 times a day

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes even a calculator is a clock.

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 87 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If anyone cares to read "Project 2025," it's a blueprint for creating a Judge Dredd universe, where the only people still living in it will be the Super Rich and the Super F*cking Poor.

That's a bad thing, by the way.

[–] Lightsong@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (4 children)

For us folks who doesn't know Judge Dredd, got any summary, links or whatever?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Universe where an armed police force are Judges, Juries, and Executioners.

Following a nuclear war in 2070, the United States is reduced to MegaCity 1, covering the Eastern Seaboard, and MegaCity 2, covering the West Coast.

In between is a nuclear wasteland called "The Cursed Earth".

[–] doc_dish@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

You forgot Texas City

[–] halferect@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

https://youtu.be/4NCtpXG6Az4?si=DzjmTdT87Jl3Jfrp

Basically insane authority and complete corruption

[–] ours@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you have the time, watch the movie "Dredd" (2012). It's Karl Urban being fucking awesome.

[–] Lightsong@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm sold. Sailing tonight.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 66 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Fetterman is a good person to go on Fox because he looks like a significant portion of their viewers

[–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 78 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

He also shares a very large portion of the core beliefs of the old Republican party. In the 1960s he would've likely been considered center right.

It's crazy that endorsing medicare and social support structures makes him a Democrat now.

[–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's not crazy, it's intentional. Poor education combined with the lack of social structure creates a voting population ripe with anger over the shitty system and looking to blame someone instead of learn why it's like that.

Conservative media is specially made to take uneducated and rage blind voters and churn out Republican candidates who pretty much only hold office because of manufactured spite towards democrats.

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[–] BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah he’s no democrat anymore. Since he hit his head he’s been sliding to the republicans

[–] evranch@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

This is a ridiculous viewpoint, the Democrats are a center right party. Here in Canada they would be considered conservative.

He supports healthcare and workers' rights, he's a Democrat.

Or at this point the Republicans are so cracked that straight up "if he doesn't support Project 2025, he's a Democrat"

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He's referring to:

The liberal comedian then asked Fetterman whether his shift in various policies had anything to do with his recovery from his 2022 stroke, asking if > his near-death experience had given him a "freedom."

"Absolutely," Fetterman responded. "There's a line from the first 'Batman,' Joker's like ‘I’ve been dead once already. It's very liberating.'"

"It's freeing in a way. And I just think after beating all of that, I just really [want to] be able to say the things that I have to really believe in and not be > afraid of if there's any kind of blowback."

Notably:

Some of the most progressive and left parts of the Democratic Party are standing for the kind of side that have kinds of organizations like Hamas

He basically broadly cast Palestinians as "because Hamas is among them, they earned their situation.

So nominally Democrat, but he's been called "Republican's favorite Democrat" and has been espousing some more right wing sentiment this year particularly.

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[–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Honestly for his region in Pennsylvania, he's to the left still.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 months ago (10 children)

It's a shame he went full Zionist over donor money.

But Project 2025 is just basic conservatism. It is a wishlist that should shock no one for existing because it's pretty much verbatim what right wingers have demanded since pretty much ever.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And it's not like it's trump specific.

They've wanted to do this shit longer than even Biden has been alive.

If trump dropped dead right now, the replacement would do the same stuff. Whatever republican running in 2036 will still want to finish up what hasn't been done yet.

trump is a symptom, he might be the symptom that kills us, but just removing trump doesn't solve the underlying problem.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago

It's the Heritage Foundation ffs.

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)
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[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

god what a shitty website.

Archive link: https://archive.ph/5CLup

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