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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Biden loses

OP blames the 5 tankies actually living in the USA for voting 3rd party

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was planning to blame Russian Internet robots

[–] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Or you could except that the D party sometimes runs shit tir candidates.

[–] Hoomod@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

They should have been preparing a replacement for Biden since he was sworn into office.

Now.... Who really knows. There's so much at stake for more than the presidency. If the choices are between a 78 year old felon under multiple indictments who is only out for himself, and an 81 year old who wants to better the country but is, well, 81... I'll take the 81 year old

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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Considering that Biden's main competitor is an actual neonazi and the USA have an undemocratic election system that disadvantages all but two parties, there's pretty much no choice but the senile grandpa who's not a neonazi.

[–] olutukko@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

yeah like people keep saying that there is need for someone better than biden, but at the moment he's the only option thst is valid. it's about damage control not about making everything utopia.

they complain that biden is not good enough, while completely ignoring that trump is literal neonazi. how in the fuck it is even question wheter you should vote for trump or biden because the fact is that either of them is going to the office. not some third candinate who would be actually good

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Still voting Biden, but this feels an awful lot like many past elections where people are holding their nose and voting for a candidate they don’t necessarily like just because they really don’t like the other candidate: Bush v Gore, Bush v Kerry, Clinton v Trump. Those elections never seem to turn out good.

[–] squozenode@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

That's exactly what this is.

Give me a viable other option, please! Biden is soggy, cold oatmeal from 4 days ago that's probably still fine. Trump is medical waste mixed with gasoline and uranium powder.

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[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

Íf he wore a clown suit and only spoke Pig-Latin during the debate.... considering the alternative

He would STILL be the only viable candidate worth voting for

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 months ago (24 children)

In their moral justification, the argument of the lesser evil has played a prominent role. If you are confronted with two evils, the argument runs, it is your duty to opt for the lesser one, whereas it is irresponsible to refuse to choose altogether. Its weakness has always been that those who choose the lesser evil forget quickly that they chose evil.

-Hannah Arendt, German-American philosopher and political theorist, in fuckin 1964 lmao. some things never change!

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[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I think the real upsetting thing isn't Biden's performance, or having Biden as president for four more years. He achieved quite a bit after all. The real upsetting thing is the DNC being such cunts that they even pushed for this debate, hoping that Biden could win, only to deny and ignore Biden's abhorrent performance immediately after. That Bernie got shafted twice by them, that is the really upsetting part.

[–] whocares314@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

It seems pretty obvious to me at this point that the DNC would rather lose than have an actual progressive win. None of the shitty things that Trump wants to do will hurt them, (stupid take if they cared at all about their descendants but they’re either too arrogant or too ignorant to worry about that) but actual progressive policies that helped average people WOULD hurt their way of life. Marginally. Like, the tiniest little amount. Like, your yacht can only have one master bedroom instead of four. But why give that up when you don’t have to?

“It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it”

I’m voting for Biden though, and I’ll keep voting as progressively as possible in the down ballot elections. If a progressive movement from the bottom up can start by doing things like getting rid of FPTP, we still have a chance. And to anyone thinking about not voting, please do. The president is one person. They are the single most powerful person individually, (taking aside impact on the judicial system) but the collective impact on your day to day life is far more influenced by down ballot positions. Research your down ballot candidates and vote. Many of those races are decided by only a handful of votes. Yours matters.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

DNC would rather lose than have an actual progressive win

This was made perfectly clear in 2016 when Hillary stole the nom by colluding with Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.

If people haven’t caught on by now, they haven’t been paying attention. Or are just willfully ignorant.

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[–] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if OP understands what a Tanky is.

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Tankie is just the blue version of Woke at this point

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[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago (55 children)

I am a tankie and voting for Biden lmao. The Prolitariat must be protected till enough class conciousness is achieved for Socialism to succeed.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And I'd vote for a corpse before I vote for 34 time Convicted Felon Donald Trump. Eat the rich. Pack the courts. Seize the assets of felonious companies.

[–] Invertedouroboros@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Mother fucker could be Dracula for all I care. Still voting for him.

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[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (36 children)

You sound like a rational tankie, which by the definitions that lemmies have explained to me, would make you not a tankie.

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[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (44 children)

You get it! We can't fuck over vulnerable people. We can't abandon minorities and LGBT people. Even if we let things get worse to the point of a societal collapse, a lot of people will die because of it -- and societal collapse has not historically led to better societies down the road.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That's such an important point. Anyone who thinks a win by Trump will somehow speed up the advent of socialism is just deluded.

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[–] Delusional@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Well when the only other vote is fascism, hate, and bullying... Yeah we're gonna vote for the not ridiculous choice.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)
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[–] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'll vote for biden unless he drops out and a more progressive candidate presents itself, in which case I won't vote biden.

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[–] febra@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Yeah.. sure. Not a tankie, I'm European and don't care about influencing you to vote for one or another. But after seeing Biden "debate" Trump I know the dems are fucked. I mean sure, still go out and vote, but I honestly don't see many people doing so.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Absolutely go vote. Tell everyone you know to vote. Don't vote for Trump. But for the love of god, if you're otherwise not going to vote, at least vote third party.

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[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (10 children)

I'd vote for ToS era Pike over Trump. I'd vote for a candidate who only communicates via ouija board over Trump. I'd vote to not have a president for 4 years before I'd vote for Trump.

It's crazy that Trump can get convicted of fraud, be found liable for sexual assault, promise to abuse presidential power to get revenge against those who cross him, actively undermine both national and global security, promise to round up millions and put them into camps, attempt to overthrow the election and refuse to not try it again, and so on, and his side is still so loyal they'll wear solidarity diapers for him.

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm voting against Trump. Not thrilled to have a president who might have to have his Oval Office relocated to a nursing home.

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[–] abracaDavid@lemmy.today 6 points 3 months ago (23 children)

This is some weird ass propaganda.

The best thing that Biden ever did was just to not be Trump.

Why are these memes so weirdly die-hard in the support of a man that is visibly unfit for the 4 years of presidency?

No one is actually excited about old Joe. It's just that he's simply not Trump.

It would be best if he steps down so that we can get a person in office that actually excites people for more than just not being the other guy.

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[–] bender223@lemmy.today 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, some ppl don't get that you don't have to like Biden, to vote against trump. 🤷‍♂️

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