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[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 59 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Weird, because the push to replace Biden seems awfully like conservative propaganda to discourage people from voting.

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

If you’re paying attention to polling, no. He hasn’t really been winning the polls this entire time and the debate was his last hope of turning it around. I’m not saying there’s no chance, but they’re cutting it way too close on what should be an easy election. Should’ve replaced him at the beginning of the year, better late than never

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

It's really not though. It's just a nightmare. And of course in the modern system where you fight a campaign at every level before, during, and after the voting, the GOP would try to make this hard.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fascism is internally inconsistent by definition. It's all just to cause discord and confusion.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 6 points 2 months ago
"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."

-Jean-Paul Sartre

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

TIL 32% of Democrats are pushing conservative propaganda to discourage people from voting Democrat.

The "everyone who disagrees with me is a bad actor" conspiracy theories keep getting less and less plausible.

[–] feddylemmy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"The two-day poll found that both Trump, 78, and Biden, 81, maintain the support of 40% of registered voters, suggesting that Biden has not lost ground since the debate."

From the survey you linked.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago

And? Does that contradict what I said in some way?

[–] ParetoOptimalDev@lemmy.today 6 points 2 months ago

No. We just reject the losing DNC strategies that pushed for Hilary so hard and got trump elected.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Does seem to be a lot of super rich people calling to replace the guy who wants higher taxes on the wealthy.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 months ago

Til democratic governors, and congress people are now conservative propaganda

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

We're running a mentally disabled, almost dead, sundowner. Don't blame the players when he loses, blame the game. The DNC has played itself hard with a sure loser.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

There are multiple groups. Their only goal is to sew chaos.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

conservative propaganda to discourage people from voting

Things centrists say about anything to their left and only their left.

[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 57 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Shit, so do democrats apparently.

[–] JesseoftheNorth@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Democrats are right wingers

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

At this point the only thing that'll matter is who is his VP.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago
[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This should give pause to the dumbfucks who can’t acknowledge that Biden is in the shitter.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Should. Won't. They're in their element here: making up excuses for not changing anything.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

And you're in yours: discouraging votes so that Trump wins.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Have that guy tagged as "fascist troll" for a reason.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Yep I have a similar tag myself. It's how I track people that spread bad ideas.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If I cared that you would use that flimsy bullshit story I wouldn't have called you on your incessant anti-Biden obsession

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Was that a coherent thought before you typed it?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nah because if you acknowledge what I said, maybe you'd have to address the thousands of messages you've written with the obvious goal of re-electing Trump. Easier to just pretend any opponent has a mental deficiency or something

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nah because if you acknowledge what I said, maybe you’d have to address the thousands of messages you’ve written with the obvious goal of re-electing Trump.

Criticism of Biden isn't campaigning for Trump, no matter how many times you pretend it is. If Biden doesn't step down, he will lose. And you will blame everyone who tried to warn you.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If he does step down, the only thing we could be sure of is that there is a new risk introduced. The certainty you have about this is also suspicious on top of the months of anti Biden messaging I've seen from you

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You think everything to your left is suspicious.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That is the cop-out you usually go with. Irrespective of its falseness

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've seen you make the same wild accusation plenty of times to other users.

Don't love Biden? Don't love genocide? Only possible explanation is that you're a Trumpist! Now you're the enemy and I get to treat you like shit!

Which by no coincidence whatsoever is how you want to treat those to your left and only your left.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You probably couldn't be honest if you tried

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

I've never seen you treat anyone to Netanyahu's left with respect.