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[–] Bosco@lemmy.ml 52 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Speak to them through the closed/locked door, DO NOT open the door or exit your home unless they are serving a warrant, at which point you should be asking to see it.

Stepping outside can potentially impact your protection under different interpretations of constitutional rights and also opens the doors to a litany of manufactured charges/claims from the police to justify entering the home or seizing individuals.

  • They got aggressive and threatening and/or assaulted an officer.
  • I saw ______ inside the home when they opened the door.
  • I detected the scent/signs of ______.

Getting back into your house once outside is infinitely more likely to trigger the cops to escalate the situation compared to never exposing yourself to that rush by not opening the door to begin with.

Not to mention the garbage where somehow an officer can place their foot/body into the open doorway of you open the door at which point if you attempt to close the door they claim assaulting an officer.

Don't open the door. Don't go outside to speak with them. If they've got a warrant they're not going to be asking.

[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You don't even have to answer your door. You can just ignore them.

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

When I was in highschool I was home alone at an apartment complex, already riddled with anxiety, and would never answer the door.

Cops started banging on the door one day and it sounded like they switched to kicking at one point. Bellowing about how they'll arrest anyone inside unless we open up.

They went around back and started banging on the glass sliding door when it didn't slide open, which would of course have been claimed to be open the whole time I'm sure.

The management office across the street had left minutes beforehand, and one yelled about getting the keys, went over to bang on that door too.

After about half an hour of me frantically trying to get a response from my sister or parents, the former ignoring me because higshcool siblings, the latter were on a date night, they got really quiet and all hurried away. I assume someone finally realized they were in the wrong place. Were it any other situation I would have had things handled, but I was not prepared for cops.

Management got pissy about the boot scuffs all over the white door, and refused to believe it was cops since "police don't make mistakes" (whitest boomer Karen you've never seen said this) and demanded we pay for the damage. My parents stuck by my story. Ultimately management just repainted everyone's doors and trim a month later so it didn't matter.

ACAB/ALLAB Combo right there.

[–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 8 points 4 months ago

Glad you didn't end up a police murder statistic. Is self-defense against cops at your home a thing in your jurisdiction? I can't tell if they are always this stupid in the US only because in most places people aren't allowed to defend themselves.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

FYI, if they have a warrant, they no longer need your consent to do a search. Still ask for and check the paperwork, but while you're doing that they're gonna be searching your house. If you try to stop them you'll be arrested.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca -3 points 4 months ago

And if they pull you over they can search your vehicle.

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 27 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Canadians, do not follow this guide. I saw a Canadian on YouTube who thought Canada had the same constitution as the US and it didn't end well.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Your police don't need a warrant?

[–] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago

The person isn't even Canadian and has no idea what they are talking about.

[–] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

What are you even talking about? There is lots different about USA and Canada, but in terms of the things listed in the original image I don't see any differences.

Edit: After looking it over again, yep...literally everything on the card is good and valid advice for Canadians. None of it has anything to do with any constitution at all lol.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

Canadians know this is for American cops.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Good points.

Also, don’t do two illegal things at once. Like, you can have crack in your pocket, or you can jaywalk. But you can’t do both.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

I used to be a street racer type jackass 20 years ago and I was religious about this. Never kept so much as a paperclip in the car. When I was heading out to be a dickhead.

I know 3 people who the police charged with "Possession of burglary tools" for having mechanics gloves and basic tools in the car because they didnt actually catch us racing so couldnt do anything.

[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Check what they are allowed to take from your home as well. The search warrant should have what they are allowed to take.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 4 months ago

AND what they're allowed to search

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If they insist on forcing their way into your house without a warrant, there is nothing you can do to prevent it. Trying to stop them will just get you shot.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Brits do not follow their guide. At the very least the searches part. Police have a right to search you and will use force to do it if you try to stop them.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Does it actually work if it isn't being recorded?

What stops police from ignoring you and telling the judge, "Yes he said I could come in and look around."

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's why I have cameras around my house. All backup to the cloud of course.

[–] dmMeYourNudes@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 4 months ago

Vampire rules

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

Doesn’t work for traffic stops. See so many YouTube videos where they are pulled over and say this repeatedly. And just make things worse.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago

Doesn't work in 3rd world countries

[–] lol_idk@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

May as well do whatever it takes to require a passcode to open your phone too.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Quickly pressing the lock button ten times will temporarily disable face id on an iPhone

[–] lol_idk@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You can hold down the key sequence to power it off too

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago

Yep, but putting your hand in your pocket, and pressing the lock button ten times is faster than taking your device out of your pocket, press vol+, press vol- and hold the lock button untill you get the prompt to turn off the device.

Also, even after a restart like that I have had my iPhones still default to biometrics.