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Phone Link is Microsoft's late and closed source alternative to KDE Connect. It requires you sign in to a Microsoft Account for it to work.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/phone-link-requirements-and-setup-cd2a1ee7-75a7-66a6-9d4e-bf22e735f9e3

This means all the transactions between your phone and your PC are monitored and sucked up by Microsoft.

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[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 96 points 5 days ago (10 children)

KDE Connect also runs on more operating systems. It's worth mentioning to friends who run Windows.

[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 55 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You can even connect e.g. Android devices with each other! No PC/laptop needed!

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 26 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

This feature is epic. Being able to save a file to my phone from my tablet or vice versa is fantastic.

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 8 points 5 days ago

Ahh this one I didn't know! Awesome thanks!

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I was not aware that KDE Connect ran on Windows! This is great to hear for recommendations. Thanks for spreading awareness!

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[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Phone link is SHIT, it only works sometimes and never when ya need it to

[–] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago

so exactly like kde connect then

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[–] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

KDE Connect is an amazing app

[–] refalo@programming.dev 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

when it works. but it's so incredibly buggy, especially the desktop apps, and double especially the sms desktop app. holy shite is it terrible, and trying to get support is like trying to report a problem to google

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (3 children)

All I'm going to say to this is....

You people still use SMS?

I've explicitly told people not to send me text messages. The protocols are old and shit compared to other instant messengers. I'm on Google chat, telegram, signal, discord, slack, teams.... Find another app to talk to me with. I generally don't care which one, but I actively refuse to sign up for or into any Facebook/meta/Zuckerberg properties. If you use something I don't that isn't owned by the zuck, I'll probably sign up so we can keep touch, but for the love of God, not SMS.

Look, SMS was great when phones didn't have internet on them. It was a quick and easy way to send updates and chat while away from your cable/DSL/dialup (whatever you had at the time). Now that data is the primary use for a mobile phone plan, just use a more robust IM app.

I also have about six or seven phone numbers, which I give out to different groups of people for different reasons, plus a phone number on my mobile which nearly nobody knows. All my other lines (all VoIP lines) ring my cellphone number. Texting from my VoIP line is not fun, but it does work. Multimedia messages generally get lost and RCS is just encouraging the use of something that should have been killed off.

I'm partial to Telegram and signal since they mainly operate by phone numbers, but I can make "voice" and video calls over data rather than having to use my cellphone directly; which allows me to call from my computer, laptop, phone, tablet.... Literally any device that can run the program. So if my phone is lost/damaged/stolen/whatever (unavailable for any reason), I can still send messages to you and call if needed.

If everything is tied to your cellphone number, and that number becomes unavailable for any reason, well... Get fucked I guess. Your SIM stops working, your phone dies/breaks/gets stolen, your provider decides to fuck your account up or charge you a fortune for no good reason and cuts you off, your provider has a major malfunction and stops servicing clients in your area.... Literally anything goes wrong with the one system you use and all your SMS bullshit goes away. Stop. Using. SMS.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

besides many banks requiring SMS 2FA still, I usually only talk with non-app-using people over e2ee RCS

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

The banks are borderline criminally negligent because they exclusively use SMS for 2FA.

Simply, it is insufficient.

I get that they want the SMS information on file, and that's understandable, but give people another option at least, Holy hell. It gives my inner IT secops brain an aneurysm.

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[–] big_slap@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago (2 children)

KDE Connect is one of the most useful app on my phone, and I can't believe I went as long as I did without knowing about it

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 days ago

Same, I now understand the Apple fanboys, is fucking awesome when your PC connects to your phone and things works.

[–] Lipriv30@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How does KDE work in regards to sharing content between computer and phone?

[–] kde@floss.social 4 points 5 days ago

@Lipriv30 @big_slap

That would be one of KDE Connects' main functions, yes. It makes sharing any kind of file (photos, videos, whatever) easy.

You can also share the content of your clipboard from your desktop to your phone and vice versa. So you would copy, say, a web address on your desktop, and you would be able to paste it into your web browser on your phone immediately.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 29 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Interesting that they bothered to make this considering KDE Connect already works on Windows

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I'm sure it might stop working soon enough. For your safety.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The only unique (I think?) thing about phone link is that it enables you to use your Android phone camera as a webcam, which can be handy if you don't have a quality webcam. I think its only in the beta version though.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 days ago

Audio and video sharing would be really handy. I wonder if KDE connect might do this at some point

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[–] silverdiamond@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Apart from screen mirroring and sms that everyone has mentioned the proprietary alternative undeniably has more features. I don't know whether it is phone link or link to windows but one of them has a feature where your phone can be used as a webcam over WiFi. As someone who set up ip webcam on my phone and used obs virtual camera through most of the pandemic's online classes it's quite useful and I'd like to see features like that just work and are not relying on mjpeg and proprietary software on the phone end. Their auto hotspot feature i haven't gotten to work and i think is useless but I'm thankful that i don't have to turn off kde connect when using samsung dex.

[–] Lightfire228@pawb.social 20 points 5 days ago

I wonder if KDE connect could leverage the way Syncthing does device discovery and pairing

It works across networks, with no configuration

[–] guiguinofake@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

@kde@floss.social why isn't it called KDE Konnect instead of Connect?

[–] thirstyhyena@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

closed source - true

alternative to KDE Connect - false

requires you sign in to a Microsoft Account for it to work - true

[–] Damage@slrpnk.net 10 points 5 days ago

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[–] BennyHill@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

It requires you sign in to a Microsoft Account for it to TRY TO work

ftfy, i wanted to give it a shot one time and it literally didnt work, at all. all of Microsofts cross device features are a hot mess, like how you are supposed to be able to share the clipboard between logged in windows PCs, never could get that working either.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

KDE Connect and Phone Link only have partial feature overlap. I prefer KDE Connect but to claim that either is a proper alternative for the other is wrong, unless I missed that KDE Connect supports casting the phone's screen to PCs and launching phone apps from there.

[–] englislanguage@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There is scrcpy for that and you can launch arbitrary commands from KDE Connect too.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

There is scrcpy for that and you can launch arbitrary commands from KDE Connect too.

I'm fully aware of that but the scrcpy feature set is not integrated into KDE Conenct, therefore the features overlap to a degree but aren't the same. Phone Link allows to launch apps from Windows, KDE Connect doesn't offer the same. That's no diss or anything, just stating facts.

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is not new. Has been there for a while

It's been there for years, I think at least since before 11 was released...

[–] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Does KDE connect actually work with SMS on Windows now? Last time I used it, I couldn't text people, only reply using the notification if they texted me and I happened to click on it quickly enough. Pretty useless.

[–] Galapagon@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No screen mirroring though 😕

[–] englislanguage@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 5 days ago

Maybe scrcpy is the tool for you then.

[–] natan_krea@masto.es 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social

KDE connect es ya un buque insignia de la conectividad para los amantes del #softwarelibre y si no es por KDE ni sabríamos que Gates ha sacado una nueva basura al mercado.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 3 points 5 days ago

Based.

And yes, KDE Connect ftw

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On one hand, *lame!!* Die in a fire, copycats

on the other hand, *cool!* it's not my imagination that kdeconnect is the best phone app ever. thank you to all involved!! ❤️

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