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[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

also, their parliament building is on fire rn

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Ya, just saw the headline about anti-tax protesters shot dead. Interesting context to say the least.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This or similar somehow keeps happening to US "allies", usually shortly before or during the process of becoming one.

[–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think this has everything to do with the "Kenya-led intervention" US imperialists are trying to create in Hati

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

You do understand Haiti is being run by gangs at the moment, right? Close to a hundred thousand people have fled the capital city, this isn't some righteous revolution or something, it's a bunch of small time fascists taking advantage of a weak state and an unwillingness by the US to get involved try to seize power.

The UN and US are providing funding to help Kenya provide some kind of security. Whats your alternative? Let Haiti burn?

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Wonder how haiti came to be run by gangs 🤔/gen

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

TLDR a history of French colonialism which is why people want Kenya at the wheel on any intervention rather than a former colonial power.

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Not an answer. You literally don't have one, all you've got is "America bad".

Welp, the US is sitting this one out, so now's your chance to offer a solution on how to help without US interference.

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 months ago

The US is flying in hundreds of thugs from one of its puppet states in Africa to brutalise the Haitians and beat them into submission. America bad.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I wasn't answering, should have put a /gen

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The USA has been letting Haiti burn for decades. It's not an alternative, it's the status quo of US intervention. The alternative is intervention by BRICS countries, but the USA would never allow it because of their blood thirsty Monroe Doctrine

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 4 months ago

Has Brazil offered to intervene?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 0 points 4 months ago

They will be greeted as liberators, solving the problems we made

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, good I suppose, though I feel like this could be sort of a desperate attempt to shore up geopolitical influence that's being deflated by our relationship with Israel.

Post-WWII rules based order is kind of disintegrating and neoliberals are scrambling to prop it up without actually admitting to why it's failing.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It has nothing to do with Israel, but that Russia is fueling crisis in Africa.

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 4 months ago
[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'd imagine it's connected to both. Russia and China are the main antagonists to US hegemony, hoping they'll get to be the next empire if they can drive enough of a wedge between western allies and get enough debt colonialism going in SA and Africa.

So yeah, they are fostering crisis, authoritarian sentiment, and spinning anti-democratic narrative wherever they can, but Israel's genocide and complete disregard for things like the ICC/ICJ (the kinds of institutions upon which the post-war rules based order is supposed to rest) has only further degraded US international standing. Biden vetoing UN resolutions and chastising the international courts for investigating Israel does not help.

Biden's whole election schtick was that he was there to reassure the rest of the world after Trump's carastrophic administration, and now he's showing his ass anyway.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A vote for Biden was a vote to return to the status quo, which is appealing when the country is slipping into fascism but doesn't actually solve the root problems.

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Definitely, he never should've run and the other candidates never should have endorsed him as they dropped, especially since Sanders actually had steam and could've easily fulfilled the "Not Trump" space that Biden claimed he needed to be there to fill.

But, neoliberals are gonna neolib.

[–] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

Sanders could've won against Trump in 2016 and he could've won against in 2020. Yet, here we are in 2024...

[–] HowMany@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Please don't need our help right now Kenya... Please don't need our help right now Kenya... Please don't need our help right now Kenya... Please don't need our help right now Kenya... ... ...

[–] Stalins_Spoon@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 months ago
[–] Glowstick@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Cool! Love it! Thanks for being a friend Kenya!

[–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Nothing new for the US empire

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago