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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Copilot is going to want 50 gigs on YOUR computer's hard drive to store snapshots. MS also wants you to buy dedicated AI hardware to run a few of their apps. They're going to steal your computer's storage and processing resources to create a worldwide AI and surveillance network.

No thanks. I finally switched to Linux. Microsoft can become Skynet without my help.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (19 children)

All of big tech is really worried about this.

  • Apple is worried about its own science output, with many of their office heavily employing data scientists. A lot of people slate Siri, but Apple's scientists put out a lot of solid research.
  • Amazon is plugging GenAI into practically everything to appease their execs, because it's the only way to get funding. Moonshot ideas are dead, and all that remains is layoffs, PIP, and pumping AI into shit where it doesn't belong to make shareholders happy. The innovation died, and AI replaced it.
  • Google has let AI divisions take over both search and big parts of ads. Both are reporting worse experiences for users, but don't worry, any engineer worth anything was laid off and there are no opportunities in other divisions for you either. If there are, they probably got offshored...
  • Meta is struggling a lot less, probably because they were smart enough to lay off in one go, but they're still plugging AI shite in places no one asked for it, with many divisions now severely down in headcount.

If the AI boom is a dud, I can see many of these companies reducing their output further. If someone comes along and competes in their primary offering, there's a real concern that they'll lose ground in ways that were unthinkable mere years ago. Someone could legitimately challenge Google on search right now, and someone could build a cheap shop that doesn't sell Chinese tat and uses local suppliers to compete with Amazon. Tech really shat the bed during the last economic downturn.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Meta is struggling a lot less, probably because they were smart enough to lay off in one go,

or more like their user experience was already so garbage, adding AI to it doesn't make any noticeable change lol

[–] yrmp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I don't use a single Meta product on purpose. I'm sure they scrape my data despite my best efforts to not be tracked online.

I still unfortunately order things from Amazon for the convenience, use Windows for gaming and at work, and occasionally use Google search with heavy boolean search, custom search engines, and browser extensions for filtering out the garbage. I also still use Google Maps and I have an Android based tv where I occasionally watch SmartTube.

Hell I even get Netflix included with my T-Mobile subscription. My wife watches that.

And for now, I have an iPhone SE until it dies and I make the switch to a Google phone or something.

Typing this out makes me wonder what I'm waiting for to find alternatives for this FAANG garbage, but I have no idea how Facebook still exists.

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[–] normanwall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Google has let AI divisions take over both search

I fucking bing'd something the other day to get a better search result. What the fuck google.

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[–] greenskye@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not sure there could be any sort of legitimate threat to them, but I could definitely see a Netflix situation playing out. That is a popular upstart temporarily seems poised to take over, but then suffers from extreme levels of interference from bigger players who artificially hold the upstart down while they desperately catch up and then ultimately come at least equal while the Netflix equivalent is mostly a shell of what it could've been.

Never underestimate how much buckets and buckets of cash reserves can overcome even incredibly out of touch laziness when it comes to competing with any start ups. Apple in particular could probably afford to let competitors get a decade ahead and still be able to come back based on the ridiculous amount of cash they have to float their business along with.

Yeah competition won't work in a market where some competitors have such massive amounts of wealth. This is a failure of unrestrained capitalism and it's bad for consumers ultimately.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Someone could legitimately challenge Google on search right now

Not really, unfortunately, because of the sheer mass of the internet the infrastructure to just support the index of it requires massive funding. Even other giants like MS with Bing struggled with this. Short of a radical new way to run a search engine without a massive index, I just don't see it happening.

[–] greenskye@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

It's kind of curious to me about search because honestly my Internet world has only grown smaller and smaller. Where I used to use Google to find new websites, I feel like most of my searches on Google are now to search a handful of sites I already know. Ironically if Reddit had a better search function, a lot of my Google usage would fall off as I'd just go directly there, as it's still the best place I've found for troubleshooting support and real reviews of lots of products. A competitor to Google wouldn't really need to index the entire web for most people, but rather a relatively small number of website super giants like Amazon, Reddit, Wikipedia, etc.

[–] justaderp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Monopolies don't care about the user experience, only profit. The AI doesnt understand the former, only the latter. The continued degredation of the user experience is a likely indicator of an increase in revenue as function of successful application of AI.

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

No. They are still capable of pressure typical for oligopoly (censoring out mentions of their competition, tactically buying out things which could help that competition and shutting them down, defamation, lobbying for laws directed against their competition).

Unless that happens too fast for them to realize.

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[–] TheLastOfHisName@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Windows Recall did it for me. I switched to Pop!_OS Linux and have been pretty content so far.

[–] Delonix@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Great os, I switched a year ago, no complaints! Plays games, edits videos, no crashes, to anyone reading, get it!

Isn't that a good thing? The best job in the gold rush was selling shovels. Nvidia is already doing that, so I guess the second best thing is providing lodging, which is what Microsoft is doing.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I work at a big EU company, MS top partner / strategic account etc. We wanted to implement MS Dynamics CRM in one of our newer business lines, we barely got a reply to our official emails.

After some informal discussions, we were told that salespeople are now only incentivized to sell Copilot, so they don’t really bother with the rest.

If MS is overinvesting to ride the AI hype as a middle man, while letting their core business capabilities (Windows and Office) decline, they will be in trouble in the long term.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Windows actually aren't a very big share of their revenue, but Office is yeah.

[–] greenskye@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (7 children)

It's kind of crazy to me that their AI product is already 50% of the revenue of their OS product. The thing that a stupidly high amount of computers require to even function for most people.

[–] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The chart shows revenue, not profit. I wouldn't be surprised if Copilot is not profitable.

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[–] people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago
[–] x1gma@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Man, the disclaimer at the bottom that Business Insider is partnered with OpenAI to allow them to train on their articles is really the cherry on top.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

That's a shit circle. I figured most of their articles were already written by LLMs.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I am stuck with Windows 10 & 11 at work, on multiple various machines. Also some versions of Windows Server.

It honestly feels hostile towards the user now. For myriad reasons. It's a constant battle for me to turn pointless crap off that it keeps turning back on with the next big update.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Linux is waiting for you. You know you want it.

[–] greenskye@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

I realize gaming on Linux is already very doable (I have a steam deck), but for me specifically, I need the majority of the mod developers to have shifted over to Linux gaming before I can switch. I primarily play games that tend to be heavily modded and it's really common to need to run some sort of 3rd party tool to mod. One that is often not Linux compatible. I realize there are utilities that can sometimes help with this, but between extremely spotty mod documentation and my own lack of familiarity with Linux, that kind a tricky ask for me to accomplish. I've pretty much given up on playing modded games on my steam deck for now. I hope someday most of the gaming world will switch, but until then I feel somewhat chained to Windows if I want to enjoy my hobby.

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 1 points 1 month ago

Windows is a OS that works against you since at least 10.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Nah, it hasn't changed. It's garbage.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

Hey now! They're also the world's foremost bloatware packager. No one will ever take that away from them.

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