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While some of their language has changed, the sentiment of this latest aggressive movement is just as distressing. It’s time for the games industry to stand up to it

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[–] chloyster@beehaw.org 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

So that was a thread huh?

Sorry to have to lock the post and clean up some comments, but I think it's safe to say that gamergater apologia is not cool on the gaming community here.

Please do not downplay death threats, especially when they come from a site absolutely known for sending them out. Think what you want about SBI, but to deny Gamergate and other harassment campaigns and the damage they have caused is dangerous and also absolutely does not contribute to making beehaw a safe place.

Thanks ❤️

Edit: and thank you to everyone who reported!

[–] j_p_@beehaw.org 45 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Gamergate was one of the first online instances that showed how easy it is to spread lies and misinformation through social media in order to manufacture outrage and weaponize it against specific targets.

The same exact tactics have been used by the far-right since. Gamergate felt like a testing chamber, before the full blown nazi propaganda plan that's getting far-right politicians elected in many places. I live in one of such places, and the online tactics used by literal nazis against progressive politicians are 1-to-1 the same used in gamergate.

Those issues with social media have never been dealt with. If anything, social media has become more mainstream since, and now these tactics of lying and manufacturing outrage have become more powerful.

Traditional media seemed to have some semblance of accountability (although not really), but in social media, anyone makes up shit, people will take their word for it, if they like what they hear (or aligns with their beliefs), and it doesn't matter if it's debunked, because no one listens to that part.

The only solution is, and has always been, a zero tolerance policy against any kind of hateful or bigoted behaviour, by the people who control these online spaces. No one expects 4chan to moderate their content at this point, but when someone makes a new online space for conversations, those same people shouldn't be welcomed, or they'll shit all over the floor, turn it into another gross place, and you'll have to start over.

These new complaints about "wokeness" in games, that happen with every game announcement, aren't even dog-whistles at this point. They've been straight up howling for a while. The follow-up attacks, threats, lies, the dismissal that "none of this happens, it's all made up", and the support of fellow misogynists (like the companies with a history of sexism mentioned in the article), are all just part of the program.

And of course, you can see them in some of the comments in this very thread.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

[false claims that] journalists gave the recent PS5 game Stellar Blade (pictured below) bad reviews because its female characters are too hot

That seems an inadequate way of summing up the Stellar Blade controversy which on the whole was considerably more ridiculous than that.

[–] Silverseren@fedia.io 20 points 4 months ago

The Gamergaters really wanted the game to get bad reviews so they could use it to fuel their self-victimhood.

[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Tbf I have never looked at Assassin's Creed as a historically accurate game. It can really be only called accurate in broad terms probably. (Only played Black Flag and Odyssey tho).

She seems to bring up pretty great points, like harrassing her, complaining about not hot enough greek god girl, but I'm interested about the other side.

Also she worked at Kotaku in the past, so listening to these gamergate people too could help to make a throught decision overall

[–] xep@fedia.io 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

If it's a small but loud group of unpleasant people on the internet, can't we just do what we've always done and ignore them?

[–] Silverseren@fedia.io 29 points 4 months ago

Those of us who aren't being harassed and sent death threats by them can, sure. But that's kind of the problem.